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Asskicker_5150 15 AGO 2016 a las 8:34 p. m.
Rashalga the mad Queen
I have 1,950 hours in Grim Dawn so I would say I am really good with this game, but I can not kill this #$%^&*% Queen is there a trick or something what am I missing?
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Alien3moji 3 JUL 2017 a las 4:58 a. m. 
Lol sorry man, with this ammount of hours and you still can't kill her, I just couldn't agree that you're good at the game. She's easy, even on ultimate, it's just not a lot of characters can totally face tank her if that's what you're expecting. I'd say that any decent build is able to kill her by decent poison resist/dps/decent defense stats. You just need to also have a big enough health pool so she isn't able to one-shot you or anything like that. Then you just kite her, move away whenever she scores a big hit and stay away from pools of poison, try to also kill the worms first every time she spawns them.

I'm not trynna be a smartass or arrogant, but she's almost too easy for my lvl 85 conjurer. The only real hard enemies in this game are Mogdrogen (way to hard), Loxmere (way too stupid), maxed out Anasteria on ult (huge devastation dmg + stun) and possibly ult Fabius (to some characters). Even tho with Fabius it really depends what weapon he spawns with, if he gets really lucky with a weapon spawn he can one-shot you if you're not really carefull and well-geared. Bourbon clones can be a bit tricky too, but nothing in this game is in the league of ult Mogdrogen, he's just crazy hard and the only boss in the game I haven't yet been able to kill solo in ultimate.
DeadByDefault 3 JUL 2017 a las 6:24 a. m. 
One thing most people will overlook as to the Mad Queen is that on Ultimate, her life-leech damage will be enhanced by the player's resistance reduction penalty. Except for some components and constellations, life-leech resistance is a bit hard to come by, so most characters will end up with -25% life-leech resistance on Ultimate. That's a major reason for her ability to nearly instantly heal herself back to maximum health. A DA value of 2k+ also helps, the more, the better.

Publicado originalmente por Alien3moji:
The only real hard enemies in this game are Mogdrogen (way to hard), Loxmere (way too stupid), maxed out Anasteria on ult (huge devastation dmg + stun) and possibly ult Fabius (to some characters).

Mogdrogen is intended to be nigh on impossible to defeat on Ultimate. He is the avatar of a god, and unlike Loghorrean, he is not in a weakened state. Besides, there is no worthwhile reward for killing him except for overcoming the challenge, and the fight takes for ever even on the best builds.
Loxmere is annoying, but easy if you do not allow him to burn your energy.
Anasteria's most dangerous attack is not her devastation per se but the combination of her resistance reduction spell and devastation.
Fabius is easy in most scenarios if you know his routine; I agree that the weapons with which he spawns determine whether he can one-hit kill you. If he spawns with Notched Bone of a Thousand Deaths, I try to find a way around him or reset. It's not worth while, as even with both bleeding and pierce resistance overcapped and 15k+ health, one critical hit will kill you right away. Good thing I know what that weapon looks like! ;)
I'm surprised not to see The Sentinel on your list, though.
Alien3moji 3 JUL 2017 a las 6:44 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DeadByDefault:
One thing most people will overlook as to the Mad Queen is that on Ultimate, her life-leech damage will be enhanced by the player's resistance reduction penalty. Except for some components and constellations, life-leech resistance is a bit hard to come by, so most characters will end up with -25% life-leech resistance on Ultimate. That's a major reason for her ability to nearly instantly heal herself back to maximum health. A DA value of 2k+ also helps, the more, the better.

Publicado originalmente por Alien3moji:
The only real hard enemies in this game are Mogdrogen (way to hard), Loxmere (way too stupid), maxed out Anasteria on ult (huge devastation dmg + stun) and possibly ult Fabius (to some characters).
If he spawns with Notched Bone of a Thousand Deaths, I try to find a way around him or reset. It's not worth while, as even with both bleeding and pierce resistance overcapped and 15k+ health, one critical hit will kill you right away. Good thing I know what that weapon looks like! ;)
I'm surprised not to see The Sentinel on your list, though.
Exactly if he spawns with that weapon yes, otherwise I agree it's not so hard. Well it's strange that I never had too much problem with him (Sentinel), of course I cannot facetank him on ult but still if I played with some caution I don't think he ever managed to kill me. But this again depends on the build probably. And for life leech resist, Boneshatter treads are a very good item.
Última edición por Alien3moji; 3 JUL 2017 a las 6:45 a. m.
Finnvbot 3 JUL 2017 a las 6:55 a. m. 
There also are Twilight Signet, Oblitorix, and Eyes of the Reaper. I wonder how that combo would fare against her.
DeadByDefault 3 JUL 2017 a las 7:10 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Finnvbot:
There also are Twilight Signet, Oblitorix, and Eyes of the Reaper. I wonder how that combo would fare against her.
I didn't mean that it's impossible to get life-leech resistance. I rather meant that you'd have to sacrifice damage output or other resistances in order to get it to some high value. And since there are only a few enemies using life-leech damage to any significant amount, most builds don't bother with it. Gear for specific fights or different fights is always some option, of course.
zverozvero 3 JUL 2017 a las 7:53 a. m. 
Resistance wont do much. I made Torment cause i thought it'll help - asumed my Bonshatter and Reapers bucket werent enough. It didnt change a thing cause her aura activation heals her flat for 15-20% even if you are screen away from her. You must race her down and if you cant outdamage that heal you won't kill her.
Its really illadvised for Hardcore character but i solved my problem (2h chaos Witchblade with Obsidian Juggernaut - couldnt race her heal) by catching timing for aura disabling. When she screams again after aura was on you can charge in - aura is disabled allready even though visual didnt dissipate yet. You cant go too far from her though - she'll not scream to mark aura drop.

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But its easy to miss/mess and get facefull of shotgun, then loose all edge you've got waiting for Menhir will to reset, or just die for instant swing right after. If you are on HC char, better try to catch right timing on Elite, or use other melee charge character to adapt.

I've beaten her with Ancients and Void elixirs to push damage through, but after that i ran my standart layout feeling precise time to rush in. Decimation relic instead of Torment and Golem boots instead of Boneshatter leaving only Reapers Eyes for LL res. Was much better, didnt need damage bost drinks and had much better stability against her normal attacks thus didnt loose any uptime to recover.
Finnvbot 3 JUL 2017 a las 7:57 a. m. 
That's some great insight, cheers!
SlvtDanteChosenOne14 (Bloqueado) 2 OCT 2017 a las 2:41 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Alien3moji:
Lol sorry man, with this ammount of hours and you still can't kill her, I just couldn't agree that you're good at the game. She's easy, even on ultimate, it's just not a lot of characters can totally face tank her if that's what you're expecting. I'd say that any decent build is able to kill her by decent poison resist/dps/decent defense stats. You just need to also have a big enough health pool so she isn't able to one-shot you or anything like that. Then you just kite her, move away whenever she scores a big hit and stay away from pools of poison, try to also kill the worms first every time she spawns them.

I'm not trynna be a smartass or arrogant, but she's almost too easy for my lvl 85 conjurer. The only real hard enemies in this game are Mogdrogen (way to hard), Loxmere (way too stupid), maxed out Anasteria on ult (huge devastation dmg + stun) and possibly ult Fabius (to some characters). Even tho with Fabius it really depends what weapon he spawns with, if he gets really lucky with a weapon spawn he can one-shot you if you're not really carefull and well-geared. Bourbon clones can be a bit tricky too, but nothing in this game is in the league of ult Mogdrogen, he's just crazy hard and the only boss in the game I haven't yet been able to kill solo in ultimate.



Wow with a full spell build you beat her, you are good. Try beating her with 95% close range. You are a punk.
strangerism 2 OCT 2017 a las 3:29 a. m. 
you can try the secret npc vendor in blood grove, his shop can spawn 1 random blueprint beside the skeleton key one
Última edición por strangerism; 2 OCT 2017 a las 3:29 a. m.
ha..HA! 2 OCT 2017 a las 4:03 a. m. 
Use mark of divinity so you can have a circuit breaker that allows you to facetank her to a certain degree. If you're using something with demolitionist, take blast shield as it will allow you to also facetank her to some degree. Mad queen is extremely challenging for melee characters because of her retaliation aura which can shotgun melee toons to death if they don't have any circuitbreakers or large amounts of health. I would also presume that for melee, having DA of less than 2k would be suicide when facing Mad Queen.

As for ranged toons/casters, most builds would probably be able to take her on with some kiting and provided they have ok gear. Builds that use multiple projectiles such as Phantasmal Blades are a different story though since mad queen's retaliation aura triggers from each projectile.
Matthew 2 OCT 2017 a las 4:08 a. m. 
Thread is over a year old. But for anyone wandering by still looking for advice: She will roar 3 times in a row and on the third roar, she puts up a massive life depleting aura. Just run away for oh... 4 seconds or so, then turn and fight her again. When she roars 3 times again, run away. Rinse and repeat.
Pousto 15 ABR 2019 a las 1:22 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Makumouko:
Yeh, the boss is easy on non-Ultimate.

I was a summoner on Ultimate and it was easy to kite her and spam pets on her, until she stared to lifesteal like hell (lifebar instanly jumping to full). So i suppose letting her damage you/pets makes it impossible.

However i was able to beat her by kiting her to the starting circular room of the dungeon and staying as far as possible (beyond my skills cast range) and commanding my 7 pets on her, making her ai stuck bcuz of my pets blocked her. Pretty satisfying to break her ai.

"the boss is easy on non-Ultimate"
"i stood kited out of range and sent my 7 pets after her"
"pretty satisfying to break her AI"

You clearly don't understand the post or why we are here.
Wintermute 15 ABR 2019 a las 1:49 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Pousto:
why we are here.
To necro the ♥♥♥♥ out of threads?
Elizabello 15 ABR 2019 a las 1:55 p. m. 
U showed him Pousto! lool
Demetry842 15 ABR 2019 a las 2:09 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Asskicker_5150:
I have 1,950 hours in Grim Dawn so I would say I am really good with this game, but I can not kill this #$%^&*% Queen is there a trick or something what am I missing?

Just... it's one of the few bosses which require some tactic from you (above your build).

It's really easy to miss it, because, usually, you need only good build and gear (90%) to kill a monsters.

So...
1) For ranged attak (and a pet masters)- it's a very easy boss: just run around the room (big circle). Dont get close!!!, avoid AOE, some time shoot the minion. At ultimate - you need a pretty good DPS (nothin fantastic - just pretty good, because she have a great HP regen).

2) For middle and close range - almost same. Just "big circle" kiting - doesnt work (because you cant hit the boss from a distance). So... better running around the pillar.
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