Discord = DPS LOSS

[[OT]Nekrage]

Just noticed everytime I spend a point in discord the cadence damage drops.

I believe this is due to skills like Deadly Momentum, Decorated Soldier, etc. which increase PHYSICAL damage by a %. This would reduce the effectiveness of this skill as you are now doing less physical damage.

Anyone else seeing this? Why even get discord then?

[Elphelt's Biggest Fan]

Something you might not have read on grim dawn's site:

The order of events for Conversion is as follows: Base Skill > Skill Modifiers > Conversion on the Skill or Transmuter > Conversion on Equipment and Buffs > Equipment, Auras and Passives

So you would obviously use this if you had a bunch of elemental damage boosts and not if you were investing heavily in physical damage boosts. It's a transmuter, so it's supposed to change the use case (note all equipment auras and passives are after the transmuter).

[[OT]Nekrage]

Originally posted by A Young Fresh Newbie!:

Something you might not have read on grim dawn's site:

The order of events for Conversion is as follows: Base Skill > Skill Modifiers > Conversion on the Skill or Transmuter > Conversion on Equipment and Buffs > Equipment, Auras and Passives

So you would obviously use this if you had a bunch of elemental damage boosts and not if you were investing heavily in physical damage boosts. It's a transmuter, so it's supposed to change the use case (note all equipment auras and passives are after the transmuter).

Gotcha! So if youfocus more ele damage then you would get Discord.

Thanks for the input!

[Aelies von Saladir]

Yeah
Say, if you have 100 base physical damage, +50% physical damage and +25% elemental damage, you'll get 100+50%= 150 damage on normal attack. At level 3 Discord, you will only get 50+50% = 75 physical and 50+25% = 62.5 elemental, totalling in 137.5 damage. Someone like my character, who has about 200% physical and 600% elemental, however, would get a huge boost by Discord.
Discord, as with most transmuter (green gem) skills is not flat upgrades of the base skills - these transmuters are more like sidegrades that make the skills more useful in some way and less useful in others.

[Matheuz]

but when u test it .. with no gear no bonus no devotion just plain naked lvl 85 character with just points in cadence and 3 in discord nothing else
the dps still drops by alot
again there are no +% bonuses active for anything

[Darksurgeon]

Maybe try Vent? I hear it increases DPS dramatically.

[[OT]Nekrage]

Originally posted by Darksurgeon:

Maybe try Vent? I hear it increases DPS dramatically.

Teamspeak = Greatest DPS boost of our generation.