Demolitionist, Grenado or Canister Bomb?

[DeadMeat91]

Hello fellow pyromaniacs, I am facing a bit of a dilemma here. I am choosing between Grenado and Canister Bomb. Canister Bomb is quite good as a ''room cleaner'' and with still good damage despite the spread, but Grenado has very high single target damage making it a very efficient boss killer. I lean a bit more towards Grenado since I have a maxed out Fire Strike tree thus already having a (somewhat) crowd control tool and Grenado benefits a bit more from Ulzuin's Chosen skill since it has more damage types. But I could be wrong, what can you suggest? Thank you.

[Elizabello]

BWC for life!

[RodHull]

Grenado is more powerful to begin with but its has a weird unreliable explosion point that sometimes misses everything if it hits a mob thats a little to far forward, canister bomb i know gets good later but early on BWC I think is superior to both for everyday use

[GoorolinaPumpkin.TTV]

get all the points for those electric tack things.
It's amazing

edit: Ulzuin's Chosen also helps buff the damage

[DeadMeat91]

Well, thank you for those alternative suggestions, but can someone give his/her opinion on the particular dilemma I posted above? I am dead set on either Grenado or Canister Bomb, I already tried the rest and I wasn't too impressed, for my standards anyways.

[Elizabello]

Originally posted by DeadMeat91:

Well, thank you for those alternative suggestions, but can someone give his/her opinion on the particular dilemma I posted above? I am dead set on either Grenado or Canister Bomb, I already tried the rest and I wasn't too impressed, for my standards anyways.

You, Sir, break my heart! Go Grenado then.

[DeadMeat91]

Originally posted by Elizabello:

Originally posted by DeadMeat91:

Well, thank you for those alternative suggestions, but can someone give his/her opinion on the particular dilemma I posted above? I am dead set on either Grenado or Canister Bomb, I already tried the rest and I wasn't too impressed, for my standards anyways.

You, Sir, break my heart! Go Grenado then.

Very well, Grenado it is. Why was I cause for heartbreak though? Apologies for that for what it is worth.

[Elizabello]

Originally posted by DeadMeat91:

Originally posted by Elizabello:

You, Sir, break my heart! Go Grenado then.

Very well, Grenado it is. Why was I cause for heartbreak though? Apologies for that for what it is worth.

You turned your back on BWC.

[Mokona]

From what I've seen from using grenado for a short while, I didn't like it. Great damage however you will only hit one or two targets if you are lucky. The reason for this is it exploads the moment it makes contact, it works like a fireball hitting the first thing instead of lobbing over enemies to make it land in the middle.

[Legion]

Originally posted by Mokona:

From what I've seen from using grenado for a short while, I didn't like it. Great damage however you will only hit one or two targets if you are lucky. The reason for this is it exploads the moment it makes contact, it works like a fireball hitting the first thing instead of lobbing over enemies to make it land in the middle.

Grenado can also bounce off petty obstructions like desks and rubble, missing the target completely.

Canister Bomb is more reliable and has more utility.

[RodHull]

Originally posted by prometheus.mh:

Originally posted by Mokona:

From what I've seen from using grenado for a short while, I didn't like it. Great damage however you will only hit one or two targets if you are lucky. The reason for this is it exploads the moment it makes contact, it works like a fireball hitting the first thing instead of lobbing over enemies to make it land in the middle.

Grenado can also bounce off petty obstructions like desks and rubble, missing the target completely.

Canister Bomb is more reliable and has more utility.

THIS the amount of times a straggling skeleton has eaten a whole grenado while the huge group of revenants hides 3ft behind him is painful... its fine as a nuke now and again but not reliable imo

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Canister Bomb if you need an AoE attack, Grenado if you already have an AoE attack and need a strong single target attack. 9 times out of 10, Canister Bomb will work better with most builds. Grenado is really only needed if you are using it as your main attack.

[The Blazing Moon]

I think it should depend more on what type of damage you are stacking for your build.

Grenado is heavily physical with secondary pierce. Lots more physical, crit, and some fire if you pick up High Impact. Lightning and electrocute damage with Skyfire Grenado.

Canister Bomb is nearly equal parts pierce, fire and burn. You can add more pierce, fire and some internal trauma damage if you pick up Improved Casing.

An aside, Elizabello has good reason to be fond of Blackwater Cocktail. It may not be the
greatest damage on enemies that don't stand still inside of it's area of effect, but as a debuff
tool for making fire strike more effective, it works wonders.

With Demon Fire and Agonizing Flames, BWC lets you take away a good chunk of enemies'
flat armor and resistances. And this stacks with the % reduction from Thermite Mine's
Hellfire Mine -%chaos, making for some ludicrous Fire Strike + Brimstone damage when
enemies rush through a choke point and both your traps.

[DeadMeat91]

Well, this has been....insightful. After a visit to the skill retrainer and experimenting with the BWC suggestions I must admit that BWC augmented by high potency is indeed very useful. Thanks everyone.

[Elizabello]

There are a lot of uses for BWC even aside from being an amazing debuff.

[The Incredible Husk]

What the heck is "BWC"? I can't figure it out.