Grim Dawn
shall you buy diablo 4 ?
I was 99% sure I will not do it if that not come on steam....

but when I se lilith I guess I need buy it :(
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I have little hope for it to be honest. Blizz has degraded into a bloated over priced game studio. Whens the last really good release they have? If all they do is revamp the visuals and leave the story alone, they might have a chance. But knowing them they think they can improve it only to perturb the masses.
Maybe on console. Diablo 3 is pretty enjoyable on a console, and you can play non-season characters offline.

I wish Grim dawn would release on ps4 so I could play that instead but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
diablo 4 actually has better graphics than 3, looks less WoW cartoonish style but no way i'm going to preorder it like i did with d3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxyngNvUhM&ab_channel=Xtimus
I watched a video of the sorcerer skills revamped on youtube and wasn't really impressed with it. My favorite classes in the original were Spearzon and thorn Paladin. Can't really even bother to look at those after 20 years. I feel like Blizzard is pulling their own teeth in desperation with their IP.
Цитата допису Blinkybubs:
I feel like Blizzard is pulling their own teeth in desperation with their IP.

Desperation? Pretty sure that is ENTIRELY the wrong word to use here. In 2015 D3 had 30 million sold (it sold 3.5 million copies in just the first 24 hours). That's the last reported figure I could find. That was 6 years ago.

D3 player counts on Playstation consoles (as of November 2020):
https://gamstat.com/games/Diablo_III_Reaper_of_Souls/

For PC, current:
https://playercounter.com/diablo-3/

D3 is still holding its own. I don't even like D3 and I surely have much disdain for Blizzard. They are a lot of things, and 9 years after D3 release I think it's safe to say that desperate isn't one of those things.

Blizzard could fart in a jar and sell it out lickety-split - regardless if you, I, or every person on this GD forum and our friends refused to buy anything else by them. Blizzard still retains one of the largest die-hard fanbases (across multiple IP's) out there that make it clear they are the ones desperate for anything Blizz poops out.

No, my friend, Blizzard is far from desperate and all the bad press they've received over the recent years, all the blunders along the way, none of that is going to stop the kiddies and older Diablo fans from rushing out and buying D4 in mass when it hits.
Автор останньої редакції: powbam; 24 квіт. 2021 о 20:27
Noted...

Not what I was getting at there. So many die hard fans hated there phone iteration of the Diablo series. So many more hated their latest (D3.) I think the revamp is a desperate attempt to draw interest in impulse buys. Its like this, they're prepping for a release...and they are going to throw a 'saving throw ticket item' before they roll for the 'action' so that on the ass end it hopefully doesn't hurt so much. Its a way to play it safe. You know as well as I do that big money doesn't necessarily mean they have a good game. I don't see any of their money on my end, what I see on my end is their product and I'm unimpressed to say the least. Did I say that already? probably, it never gets old that one. Bad press is bad press...
Автор останньої редакції: Blinkybubs; 24 квіт. 2021 о 21:25
Цитата допису Blinkybubs:
Noted...

Not what I was getting at there. So many die hard fans hated there phone iteration of the Diablo series. So many more hated their latest (D3.)

When you still manage to sell 30+ million /shrugs - D3 was a letdown for me as well. Drastically so. Coming from the standpoint of being a diablo fan it felt like they screwed us over but at the end of the day it has still sold like hotcakes... and kept doing so and breaking records doing it. Is it a bad game? Clearly not. Is it a bad diablo game? Sure, many of us think so - obviously not enough to matter in the long run.

As for Diablo Immortal - that's completely unrelated imo. The reason Blizzard took heat for that is, by and large, because they made it the "big reveal" at Blizzcon - which was a big nono when everyone was clearly expecting to hear about D4 (for PC). Noone is mad at them for trying to expand to mobile. They are mad at them for wasting a Blizzcon announcement ON a mobile game. People pay big bucks to attend these conventions and to be served nothing but a mobile game as the big announcement its not surprising everyone lost their marbles.

Цитата допису Blinkybubs:
I think the revamp is a desperate attempt to draw interest in impulse buys.

I disagree. People have been wanting a D2 revamp for years. It is abundantly clear the demand is there. It will sell and it will sell well.

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I'm a realist. I don't let my dislike of D3 and Blizzard cloud my ability to see the obvious, to see things for what they really are.

It's the same thing for me if we were to be talking about PoE - there is nothing I like about that game or its implementations and business model - but I'm realistic enough to acknowledge that it is clearly popular, clearly doing well, and clearly will continue to do so for the foreseeable future and the same goes for Blizzard. Whether you see any of Blizzard's "money" on your end is completely irrelevant to the fact that they will continue to do just fine with or without us.
Автор останньої редакції: powbam; 24 квіт. 2021 о 22:41
I'm sure I'll buy it eventually, after its been out for awhile and it settles down. I don't really care what people say about it before that, there are always going to be people who love it, and people who hate it or hate the company. Grim Dawn was the only early access game I have ever purchased, it was so fresh at the time, and had it's own "feel". I still remember the video that pulled me in, it showed the guy kicking down the door to go in and fight monsters!

For me there is a lot of nostalgia when it comes to D2, just the sounds of the potions hitting the ground or being drank are like...home sort of? That fuzzy feeling you get when you know you've been here before, like when I simmer my signature chili for 12 hours on a cold winters day. As a matter of truth though, I bought both expansions for D3 and have only ever played about 30 minutes of the first one. So I'll figure it out after its been out for a year or two.

If GD2 ever becomes a reality I'm sure I'll jump on that train as soon as it leaves the station.
Цитата допису Oblivion comes:
diablo 4 actually has better graphics than 3, looks less WoW cartoonish style but no way i'm going to preorder it like i did with d3.

Preorder was a bigger deal back in the day due to limited hard copies as you ran to your nearest gamestop and the internet options was nowhere close to where it is now.

These days whether you decide not to preorder or buy the game within first couple months, no difference since it's a one click download while you sit at home in your underwear.
Автор останньої редакції: Eminem; 24 квіт. 2021 о 23:01
Цитата допису Blinkybubs:
Noted...

Not what I was getting at there. So many die hard fans hated there phone iteration of the Diablo series. So many more hated their latest (D3.) I think the revamp is a desperate attempt to draw interest in impulse buys. Its like this, they're prepping for a release...and they are going to throw a 'saving throw ticket item' before they roll for the 'action' so that on the ass end it hopefully doesn't hurt so much. Its a way to play it safe. You know as well as I do that big money doesn't necessarily mean they have a good game. I don't see any of their money on my end, what I see on my end is their product and I'm unimpressed to say the least. Did I say that already? probably, it never gets old that one. Bad press is bad press...

diablo iv is still in the development. with remaster they can examine what fans really want, if remaster get positive feedback they will make diablo iv more like d2 if negative they can stay with diablo 3 features.
They sold all those D3 copies 3 years after release because that's when they took Jay off the project, removed the auction house and started introducing real game content. It made the game playable but PoE had come in at that point and was evolving fast.

From the trailer D4 does look to be thematically going back to the darker D2 style, but I'll still wait. Blizzard can make any cinematic look amazing but its the rest of the game that they've been falling short on for a while now.
All these new ARPG's are trash. Even Lost Ark got some questionable changes done and has a weird cash shop now. and I was excited for that one.

Grim Dawn has more meaning and gives off the vibe you are actually playing an RPG instead of a time waste simulator by running the same maps or the same dungeon or the same everything to rush on endgame.

GD you start slow and have fun getting all the way to ultimate and 100% the game on each difficulty then do secret quests, collections and build creation.
Цитата допису PsychaChi:
All these new ARPG's are trash. Even Lost Ark got some questionable changes done and has a weird cash shop now. and I was excited for that one.

Grim Dawn has more meaning and gives off the vibe you are actually playing an RPG instead of a time waste simulator by running the same maps or the same dungeon or the same everything to rush on endgame.

GD you start slow and have fun getting all the way to ultimate and 100% the game on each difficulty then do secret quests, collections and build creation.

Trash to you, there still a market for them scrub
There's a market for dudes getting impaled by chicks in stiletto heels and people who are aroused by teddy bears too.
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