Chaos damage

[Nightman20]

im not sure how it works. i dont see many options for it. must be powerful if its so limited. does anyone have an idea to how to access and use it effectively? melee build maybe?

[Matthew]

It is the least supported damage type. Outside of heavy conversion, it is typically split with another type, usually fire or vitality. AAR can convert, Flames of Ign can convert. Demo weapons can support a fire/chaos left-click build.

Demo/Occult is a popular combination for it. Items such as https://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/114 for stacking flat fire and chaos.

[Kiru]

Hybrid isn't necessarily bad anyway. Depends on what resistance reduction you have available as well. Occultist in general dabbles quite a bit in chaos. Synergizes with a bunch of things, like Necro, for pet hybrid, or the aforementioned Demo.
In the end it also depends on what kind of equip you get. Going towards chaos makes sense if you have a few equipment pieces firing Chaos Bolts, maybe you can make Oblivion (relic) and use it well by having good Vit damage as well, or...

[Protagoras]

Originally posted by Kiru:

Hybrid isn't necessarily bad anyway. Depends on what resistance reduction you have available as well. Occultist in general dabbles quite a bit in chaos. Synergizes with a bunch of things, like Necro, for pet hybrid, or the aforementioned Demo.
In the end it also depends on what kind of equip you get. Going towards chaos makes sense if you have a few equipment pieces firing Chaos Bolts, maybe you can make Oblivion (relic) and use it well by having good Vit damage as well, or...

This post was like an anime, where they leave you hanging.

Please, tell us what the "or" was!

[Nightman20]

well ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. thank you for the input

[frdnwsm]

For me, Chaos damage is something that happens as a side effect of gear. For example, my DW fire damage Purifier uses Devil-touched ammunition in his guns. This allows the use of the Demon's Breath attack, which does both Fire and Chaos damage. He also has a Legendary amulet (Avatar of Chaos) which buffs both Fire and Chaos damage.

His main interest is clearly the Fire damage from this gear, and his Devotions all concern Fire damage, not Chaos. The Chaos damage he does is just a bonus by product.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

Sadly not, Chaos is something to forget about with only base game or AoM. FG added a lot of items for exotic builds, BUT that does not mean they are strong !!.

please dispense with the BS wespe, chaos builds are very strong endgame, and chaos leveling with Occultist is 100% viable - i don't know where you are getting this "information" from, but kindly stop telling new players sht that aint so

[Da Atte]

I'm still gathering the essential items for my Chaos Oathkeeper + Occultist. A neat build in theory but I've yet to farm the required set for my build[www.grimtools.com]. Which shows that Chaos damage isn't really supported without proper gear.

It's a strange damage type when it comes down to players. No build without ability changing builds support it.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

ikr, not like arcanist has chaos AAR, inquisitor and demo has chaos RR, demo has chaos dmg, occultist has chaos dmg - totally unsupported dmg type and there has never existed any chaos builds until FG released

[Nightman20]

i will look more stuff over. thanks for the input! im guessing chaos damage is mostly a magic/ ranged thing? (arcanist/inquisior/demo/ occultist? as previously stated? i havent done it yet but im pretty sure you can make any hybrid work)

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

chaos dmg is primarily a spell thing as you level, since you need conversion/transmuter for it to work on existing melee stuff, and there the selection is a bit limited until lvl 94
but there is plenty of +chaos gear while you level, and even a couple of easily obtainable MIs that don't even require expansions that boost chaos dmg playing as Occultist, - doing a chaos Pyromancer or Warlock is totally viable while leveling, if you go Inquisitor juts dont use Flames of Ignaffar, it sucks for leveling, use inquisitor as support class for Word of Pain resis reduction to chaos(3rd node)

[Nightman20]

for a game that seems so simple the character building makes my head hurt a little lol.
i havent made a mage like class yet i guess i will go occultist arcanist and go nuker chaos magic if i can. the limited time i had with occultist was fun lots of poison/acid/blood(vitality?)damage but i mustve missed the chaos buffs/abilities.

im an uber nerd so when i saw that this game had chaos damage all i wanted to do was make like a nurgle plaguebearer or some type of chaos type warrior. if i figure it out ill prob make a character for each god lol

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

chaos dmg you find on Sigil and Doom Bolt, with conversion items later it's possible to spice pox or Dreegs Evil Eye up i believe, but those usually aren't really your main avenues
Occ also has the obvious Solaels Witchfire buff that boost chaos dmg, tho ofc spells only take advantage of the %dmg not the flat dmg so that's usually more used for melee builds
since much gear that boost chaos dmg also boost either vitality or fire dmg it compliments the sigil or doombolt very nice, ofc going red beam AAR it also works but it has other drawbacks while leveling like lack of RR. But sigil+doombolt Warlock or Pyromancer is nothing new in Grim Dawn, and it can be decently satisfying just melting stuff away while "facetanking" as a caster because your sigils heals you up a bunch

[Nightman20]

thanks for the input!!!!!!!!!

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

Originally posted by Da Atte:

... Chaos Oathkeeper + Occultist. A neat build in theory but I've yet to farm the required set for my build[www.grimtools.com]. Which shows that Chaos damage isn't really supported without proper gear...

Aye, exactly my point :D:

there https://www.grimtools.com/db/advsearch?query=N4IgTghg7g9A9gMwQUwHYGcCWA3ZBhACwjnQFk4ATTBTZMEALlAFtNVGBGAXwBoQAHADYQAnnQAyyXIMYsIAD0YBOAMy9w0WSEQoMOfERLkqNOltbsG3LlyA
now tell me again how chaos dmg isn't supported
and before you start "but muh set" - i deliberately excluded lvl 94 items from the search, if you can't do something with all the chaos stuff available, you're playing the wrong freakin game - the level 94 stuff just makes it even easier

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

phys sentinel is less supported than chaos sentinel despite the class having more inherent shared utilization for phys than chaos....
so stop crying about chaos not being good or telling people it doesn't work or that you can't do it if you dont have full bis - it's BS, chaos works and chaos is strong for endgame
^not to mention sets are freakin easy to come by these days because of transmutes on top of all the target farmable stuff
chaos warlock chaos pyromancer chaos witchblade chaos withc hunter where do you want to begin with what's possible for chaos builds these days?