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kongkim 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:18
Mad Queen. Die all the time.
I use a out of the box build so i know its not optimal. And i don't have all items yet.
But my Health, Resist, OA/DA is "ok" and have seen YT with lower stats melee her down.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/w26mY90N

What am i missing?
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Faust Wither 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:24 
want a some trick? don't go near it when it start yelling or else you gonna be stabbed with alot of needle.

https://youtu.be/wlavD8cIW1A

if too much using "tick" skill you will have a bad time fighting it.
Última edición por Faust Wither; 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:25
Enfild 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:29 
Well, for one thing you can increase resistances and armor absorption, you really have none.
Also, why do you use aegis? It is not chaos based attack, and i dont see anything that will convert it into chaos aside from your weapons, but they only work on a portion of a physical damage. I don't get it.
Última edición por Enfild; 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:30
kongkim 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:34 
Publicado originalmente por Faust Wither:
want a some trick? don't go near it when it start yelling or else you gonna be stabbed with alot of needle.

https://youtu.be/wlavD8cIW1A

if too much using "tick" skill you will have a bad time fighting it.
Ok its hard to see. can you give a time stamp :)?
kongkim 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:36 
Publicado originalmente por Enfild:
Well, for one thing you can increase resistances and armor absorption, you really have none.
Also, why do you use aegis? It is not chaos based attack, and i dont see anything that will convert it into chaos aside from your weapons, but they only work on a portion of a physical damage. I don't get it.
Hi :) Yah i know that stats can be better, but in some videos on YT people do it swith lower stats.
If i need anything its better resist as you say. But its like after some time it oneshot me.

That Aegis i know, im trying to get one of the items that converte it to chaos. So its one of the things i still need.
Faust Wither 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:37 
Publicado originalmente por kongkim:
Publicado originalmente por Faust Wither:
want a some trick? don't go near it when it start yelling or else you gonna be stabbed with alot of needle.

https://youtu.be/wlavD8cIW1A

if too much using "tick" skill you will have a bad time fighting it.
Ok its hard to see. can you give a time stamp :)?

yeah the video quality is bad but i slow it on this vid, you will see alot of needle coming out from her because she get too many hit in few second.
https://youtu.be/cQWJHDkEQTI
kongkim 9 DIC 2020 a las 12:55 
Publicado originalmente por Faust Wither:
Publicado originalmente por kongkim:
Ok its hard to see. can you give a time stamp :)?

yeah the video quality is bad but i slow it on this vid, you will see alot of needle coming out from her because she get too many hit in few second.
https://youtu.be/cQWJHDkEQTI
Thx :) From what i can see in GrimTool they do chaos damage, so maybe i try to pump up my resist on that first.
gNuff!~©~gNom3™ 9 DIC 2020 a las 19:45 
when mad queen screams 2-3times she will glow red, that means stop hitting her & run + hide if your build cant eat her burst
your dmg looks weak so probably gonna take some time killing her, and looks like you're better suited for kiting, try running around the pillar - it can also help block her shotgun
mikeydsc 9 DIC 2020 a las 21:14 
Since you are probably a beginner, those vids you watch are probably experienced players who know her tricks and can negate some or most of them. They know her movements and timings of her skills.

You on other hand sound like you are not up to speed on all elements of the game. Mad Queen is one of those middle tough bosses if you include the end game bosses like Mogroden, Crate, Ravager, Queen is a very early hi end boss. Stronger than allot of the nemesis too. Jumping into the deep end early.

Any bosses, you want to over cap your resists according to their main attack or 2 if you can. Get absorption, attack damage converted to health, resists, OA/DA and any buffs to your main damage type and sub type. Not in that order mind you, but those are the stuff you want on your gear.

BTW - always use augments and components too. If you are weak on something, there are potions to craft as well.
Última edición por mikeydsc; 9 DIC 2020 a las 21:15
raincloud40 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:30 
I think the Mad Queen has some %life reduction skills, its one of the reasons she can hit you hard. There are a few ways to get that particular resistance ( to life reduction ) I think.

I know both Soldiers and Oathkeepers have at least 1 skill each with that resistance, but I'm not sure about other classes or devotions that might have it.
gNuff!~©~gNom3™ 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:36 
you don't need %life reduction resist to beat mad queen....
kongkim 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:43 
Thx all, think i will try at get my DA up and resist more over cap before i try again :)
raincloud40 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:45 
Publicado originalmente por gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
you don't need %life reduction resist to beat mad queen....

Did I say you need it? Sure you can back off and kite during the fight...having a decent amount of leech and that particular resist can make the fight trivial, its the same with Alexander's Meteors.
gNuff!~©~gNom3™ 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:49 
Publicado originalmente por raincloud40:
Publicado originalmente por gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
you don't need %life reduction resist to beat mad queen....

Did I say you need it? Sure you can back off and kite during the fight...having a decent amount of leech and that particular resist can make the fight trivial, its the same with Alexander's Meteors.

so many enemies/bosses does %hp dmg, and the reason you don't, remotely, need %hp reduct resistance, and can beat them easily without oathkeeper/soldier, is because the resist is shared with Vitality resist, and usually incurs "neglible" dmg, and that can't kill you on its own
and nice how you mention aleks, and his meteors (which doesn't do %hp reduct dmg), where it's often the physical dmg that kills players when they eat it direct

it's not gonna help as much as learning the moves of the boss and getting base defenses up
tell people to sort that, instead of suggesting wasting stuff on a semi meaningless stat, only thing more pointless would have been to suggest upping life steal resist...
Última edición por gNuff!~©~gNom3™; 10 DIC 2020 a las 1:52
raincloud40 10 DIC 2020 a las 2:12 
Publicado originalmente por gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
Publicado originalmente por raincloud40:

Did I say you need it? Sure you can back off and kite during the fight...having a decent amount of leech and that particular resist can make the fight trivial, its the same with Alexander's Meteors.

so many enemies/bosses does %hp dmg, and the reason you don't, remotely, need %hp reduct resistance, and can beat them easily without oathkeeper/soldier, is because the resist is shared with Vitality, and incurs neglible dmg that can't kill you on it's own
and nice how you mention aleks, and his meteors (which doesn't do %hp reduct dmg), where it's often the physical dmg that kills players when they eat it direct

I got it wrong on Alex, its not the meteor that has life reduction. He has a version of PRM that fires 16 shards and does 15% life reduction per hit. Hes got another PRM version with -30 flat all resist for 3 sec. The meteor does have a nasty -30% resist for 3 sec as well. It those negative physical resists that hurt.
gNuff!~©~gNom3™ 10 DIC 2020 a las 2:20 
meteor doesn't have -% RR, it's just %RR, like viper, so doesn't hurt as much as it sounds (the prm flat RR is the nasty one indeed)
and you can't be hit by all 16prm in one hit, it's a nova so it fires in a circle format around him, again making the 15%hp reduct even less scary than it might seem on paper
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