Panetti's Replicating Missile vs Trozan's Sky Shards

[frdnwsm]

Just a question about game mechanics. I have a wee Arcanist, level 8, with 2 attack skills: PMR and TSS. I just noticed that, while I can bind Pantti to either the LMB or the RMB, only the RMB will accept Trozan. Why is this?

I know someone is going to say "The LMB is only for default attacks" or something like that. This totally begs the question; in what way does PMR qualify while TSS does not? They are both Arcanist skills, both attack spells, so it seems to me that they should both fall into the same category.

It makes no real practical difference as far as game play, as long as I can bind either skill to at least one mouse button, but my curiosity is roused now.

[Enfild]

I guess, trozan isnt spamable and you cant make it spamable.

[frdnwsm]

So, you are saying that the rule is that you can't bind anything spamable to the LMB? That clearly isn't true for all attacks. I have no trouble binding Force Wave, to pick just one example, to the LMB. There must be some ancillary codicils to that rule.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

forcewave can be made spamable - and it's a weapon attack
spamable and weapon attacks can go on LMB

[StreamWhenGuy]

You just can't. What's the point in arguing? I think everything that has a cooldown can't be assigned to LMB.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

PRM is one (non-weapon skill)..
another would be Doombolt

prm is a spamable,
doombolt is a targeted skill just like weapon attacks

[KG]

I may be wrong (I mostly use it for movement skills or Run so I haven't really needed to know) but the difference in what can be put there mostly boils down to "Can you still click the ground and run to that spot?" A noob putting a skill there that prevents moving would be orders of magnitude worse than hitting "w" and having your weapons 'disappear.'

TSS, when aimed at the ground, will cast targeting that spot (right? I haven't used it in ages) so that's out.
PRM, when aimed at the ground, won't do anything unless you hold shift. Good.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

prm is a spamable,
doombolt is a targeted skill just like weapon attacks

look what you wrote:

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

forcewave can be made spamable - and it's a weapon attack
spamable and weapon attacks can go on LMB

PRM, Doombolt, ReapSpirit... are not WeaponAttacks, that´s what I pointed out.
And since CRATE couldn´t come up with a solid rule, I go am most others with "spamable or can be made spamable", while knowing there is a few more ;D

kg literally just explained it better,
doombolt is a targeted skill, just like weapon attacks, so you need an enemy in the crosshairs for it to trigger, and doesn't trigger on ground - just like weapon attacks (and weapon attacks go on lmb)
prm is a spamable, and needs a target, spamable go on LMB
so they both follow the rule
i can't remember reap spirit (literally been ages since i used it) but either way, if it goes on lmb it follows the same rule, ie is a targetable or weapon attack skill (i'm sure it wasn't a spamable)
ex bloody pox and curse of frailty are spamable, but doesn't need a target/not a weapon attack, so doesn't go on LMB

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

My problem with that explanation is.. several Skills can´t be bound to LMB..ok, BUT a cooldown skill like Judgment can ?!?

plenty of cooldown skills can be bound to LMB, the question you should have about judgment is why it can when it's not (apparently) a weapon attack/doesn't need a target, like doomforce, and ex a skill like aegis of menhir can't be bound to LMB since they seem to "reverse" the otherwise finely established "rule"
my guess is because of the type of aoe they are, it's a non-non-targetable aoe, meaning it's activation is irrelevant to the position of the cursor and you can still be moving, where as ex trozan, pox, etc will trigger "on the cursor"/hinders movement

edit. nvm, aegis, i just loaded up an oathkeeper to double check and it can be boudn to LMB so it still follows the "rule"

[Faust Wither]

go to ideas and feedback and try suggesting it, maybe they will make every skill free from control lock.

[The Canadian Kid]

The developer stated that if you could bind targeted aoe skills like TSS to LMB it would prevent you from moving your character.

That was his explanation.

[Blake]

My procedure is

a) can I assign it to a button/key? If yes go to b.

b) does it kill things making them dead? If yes go to c.

c) equip and play the game