Poison/Bleeding Character Question

[{1}sK-Alkaiser]

Hello, i am new to grim dawn and was hoping someone would point me in the right direction. I was hoping to make a DoT based class and was wondering what is currently the best AoE DoT character or which class to go with. I have tried occulist before many many years ago and remember i liked the bleeding skill bloody pox ( reminds me of titan quest poison skill from nature skill tree called plague ).

Any information is appreciated.

[Zortex]

I'm not an expert but maybe this guide I saw will help:
https://www.requnix.com/gaming/grim-dawn-builds/sir-bloodydots-vitality-bleed-conjurer

[frdnwsm]

I'm no expert on this, since I rather prefer dealing immediate damage rather than DoT, but if you really want to go that route, you might want to look at Conjurer (Occutlist + Shaman).

You would have the choice of a crapton of DoT spells/attacks. (Poison/Bleeding/Vitality drain).
These include:

Sigil of Consumption
Dreeg's Evil Eye
Devouring Swarm
Wendigo Totem
Bloody Pox
Grasping Vines

And toss in Curse of Frailty for RR.

[raincloud40]

A couple of the choice vitality devotion procs are DoTs as well....Wendigo and Will of Rattosh. Good when stuck on a AoE like Sigil of Consumption or Wendigo Totem.

Huntress/Rend devotion is a great DoT if you're going with bleed.

[{1}sK-Alkaiser]

thank you for suggestions, how is the necromancer class also? i would assume it would have some kind of DoT or poison stuff, i just purchased expansion as well and never saw the new classes before.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

The necromancer has a couple of DoT type spells, mostly focused on Vitality dmg and one that is half poison and another that is half cold
you can make what's called a Vitamancer, a build focused on vitality dmg and vitality DoT
you can also convert the Vitality dmg to Acid/Posion dmg, tho it's usually subpar to Vitality as Necromancer natively supports Vitality Resist Reduction but not Acid/poision RR (a mechanic do increase dmg by lowering enemy resistance)

[raincloud40]

I don't have alot of exp outside of Pets with necro, but most of what I remember were vitality/aether type skillls.

It sounds like from what you want though, Occultist is going to be your core class. Choice of poison, bleed, or vitality decay for DoTs I think. Your second class is going to need to focus on one or more of those.

Shaman can do bleed or vit decay and is probably the best second class choice thanks to the massive resistance debuff skill for vitality or bleed damage called Devouring Swarm.

Word of advice though, don't spread yourself too thin on skill/devotion points trying to raise damage on multiple damage types if you can help it. Try to settle on one or two damage types if possible.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

it also kinda depends on "how" you want to deliver your dmg
if you want bleeding for instance, one of the "best"/most fun(imo) would be a Witchblade, but, it does bleeding through 2handed melee attacks - which might not be what you want if you want it delivered as a spell caster (tho you still have the Bloody Pox option)
Shaman on the other hand has some bleeding casts, also a bleeding melee ability so there you can get both, but it doesn't support poison
Occultis supports both acid and vitality dot and has a partial bleeding too, so either way this will be your core - but it's cast only, no weapon attack "delivery" if that's what you want
it's possible to make a type of "hit and run" melee poison dot build as Witch Hunter (occultist+Nightblade) where Nightblade is a melee focused class, but has a poison skill "strike" attack where he teleports to an enemy hits it (hard) which has a poison over time effect too
So decide what you want:
Bleed melee: Witchblade or Warder, (guess Trickster is also sorta an option ),
Bleed caster: Conjurer
Vitality Caster: Conjurer, Cabalist or Ritualist
Acid/Poison Melee: Witch Hunter, Dervish or Sentinel
Acid Poison Caster: Sentinel or Cabalist(through conversion)
^.... why do i feel like i'm forgetting one ...dang this game has so many classes and builds it's getting hard to keep track of lol, either way i think that about covers most of the bases at least

[frdnwsm]

Necro has skills like Soul Siphon, Harbinger of Souls and some other DoT stuff.
I am using a Defiler, which is the weakest possible Necro build, and am tearing up enemies on Elite. You do need some decent gear, though, and Devotions like Affliction to support that sort of build.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4VxwbOe2
Note: actual resistances are better than what is shown.

[{1}sK-Alkaiser]

Thank you guys for the information, I am digging the skill called "Dreeg's Evil Eye" and the bloody pox to poison and bleed things, what secondary would "enhance" Dreegs evil eye the most?

Any information greatly appreciated, doing my research before i start, but overall i am loving the poison skills occultist has to offer.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

for acid/poison based that would probably be Oathkeeper, Nightblade is also an option technically but i don't think itemization is as good (iirc -don't hang me)
for conversion to vitality; Shaman

[frdnwsm]

Nightblade is best with DW melee weapons, which might not be what the OP is looking for.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

also works with 2h melee for poison shadow strike, but i think the point is more whether or not OP wants their character as melee or caster, since while a acid caster Witch Hunter is technically possible, it might not be all that optimal, specially with itemization

[{1}sK-Alkaiser]

Hey guys will start playing tomorrow and want to thank you all for the information.

I prefer caster type of character instead of melee by the way, i used to play a ton of titan quest back in the days and my most prefered skills were mostly cast ( traps/DoT/turret ) were some of my favorite things in it.

I tried out the bloody pox skill and its hilarious to see, reminds me of plague in titan quest if anyone has tried that out before. Evil Eye seems to be like a poison grenade skill, but does not seem to be spammable.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by {1}sK-Alkaiser:

Evil Eye seems to be like a poison grenade skill, but does not seem to be spammable.

it's perfectly spamable, just don't put a point in the transmuter "Focused Gaze"

[Myagony]

I have alot of fun with DEE Warlock. https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2MoMdWZ

Good AoE and DoT's. Not the toughest or best toon but, it is the most fun build I have. Can farm nems and skellykey dungeons just fine. Leveling up wasnt bad either using DEE spam as main attack. Flash Freeze with tainted erruption. Looking at it now I might take out mental alacrity from arcanist , I dont think its needed.