Trying To make a Fire Caster Demolitionist

[Wolfchild]

I am not necessarily trying to be completely optimal, but I am planning to use Clusterbomb and Blackwater Cocktail For sure. If i can get enough Physical->Fire then I would Also like to use Grenado. Concept is to use Imp, Witchblade, Mage and Torch Devotions with a more cooldown style caster. What second class could support this well? The two that spring to mind are Oathkeeper and Inquisitor but I am willing to be corrected.

[d_beauch]

oathkeeper would be best IMO. arcanist or occultist is good too. with occultist you get healing from blood of dreeg and defence from aspect of the guardian and you get a nice debuff to physical and fire from curse of frailty. and you get extra chaos damage for your blackwater cocktail

[Slainpessimist]

Arcanist would give you cooldown reduction from Star Pact, has some handy denfence skills and you could use devastation.

[Wolfchild]

D_beauch: I had not thought of Occultist thanks.

Justinqmelb: I had not thought of using star pact in non Lightning/Cold builds, I am not the biggest fan of thermites though, would I need them without the RR from Oath/Occult/Inquisitor?

[I AM Atomic.]

Originally posted by Wolfchild:

D_beauch: I had not thought of Occultist thanks.

Justinqmelb: I had not thought of using star pact in non Lightning/Cold builds, I am not the biggest fan of thermites though, would I need them without the RR from Oath/Occult/Inquisitor?

Well if you don´t want to use thermites, than occultist with curse of frailty seems like the best cause you need a way to reduce resistances in higher diff.

[Azunai]

i'd probably go inquisitor. aura of censure is on par with other RR options (occultist CoF or shaman wind devils) and inquisitor also comes with 2 fiery spells to replace or complement your demo spells (ignaffar, kalastor).

oathkeeper has similar RR from the pets and gives you judgement and vires might as secondary skills for your build (judement requires items to become a fire skill, though). more melee oriented

occultist is certainly a viable option, but rather boring. just gives you generic stuff that fits almost every build (CoF, blood of dreeg). not bad, but leaves a lot less room for experimentation. it would however give you the option to move from a fire based build to a chaos caster. guess that's noteworthy.

[Slainpessimist]

Originally posted by Wolfchild:

D_beauch: I had not thought of Occultist thanks.

Justinqmelb: I had not thought of using star pact in non Lightning/Cold builds, I am not the biggest fan of thermites though, would I need them without the RR from Oath/Occult/Inquisitor?

The cooldown reduction alone is just about worth it, but with the skills you want to use you could easily change it into a pure elementalist.
Maybe something along these lines:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gOKaY2

[Wintermute]

I'm playing the Shieldbreaker variant now - it's the closest thing to "pure demolitionist" you'll probably get. Lots of fun. But currently on the nerfing line.

[Shooty Manz]

Inquisitor is probably one of the better ones to go for with Demolitionist for what you want to do. You also give yourself more options later to muck around with your build. Such as if you want to switch from a caster type build with a caster off-hand to trying out the various gun builds. Gun and shield is really defensive and can still play both caster and gun playstyle. Dual wield guns is hilarious fun and there are also some good 2h guns late game.

Either way, having access to Inquisitor's seal for protection, an extremely useful party heal, and rune of Kalistor or w/e its called are all great. The flamethrower skill is also great and you have a good ultimate passive to help out your fire dmg (Aura of Censure or w/e).

I can tell you as someone who tried the Demolitionist/Oathkeeper combination... it takes a loooooong time to get good. Also, I mostly just had to level with pure demolitionist as oathkeeper doesn't really have much to offer outside of melee. Meanwhile the Demolitionist + Arcanist, Inquisitor, etc options are great right off the bat all the way to end game.

You can't go wrong with the Demolitionist + Inquisitor combo. Its quite strong and you have a lot of options to play around with end game if you get tired of your build. Don't forget as well that there are a lot of conversion pieces of gear late game as well to completely change your elements around. So there's that too.

My personal favourite is quickly becoming my Mad Bomber character I'm leveling. Bombs and explosions and fire everywhere. Meteor Shower will be coming later to add to the nonsense. I have too many characters, but that's just how this game goes. :p

Enjoy. :)

[creslyn]

Probably go with Arcanist. Not only do you get Star Pact for cooldown reduction, Maivens Sphere and Mirror of Ereoctes for defense, some other nice buffs and passives, but you also get Olexras Flash Freeze which is one of the best CC in the game, but even more amazing for a Demo fire caster build. Get it high enough level and it covers the entire screen, damages, freezes and most importantly can drop fire resists by over 120% in addition to -physical resist.

[Wolfchild]

I had legit forgot that Olexras had fire RR on it, I normally played Ice/Lightning Arcanists, so I used Flash freeze but never cared about the RR. that is actually tempting.

But yeah Inquisitor was basically already the default, but I do like Devastation ...

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

Originally posted by Wintermute:

I'm playing the Shieldbreaker variant now - it's the closest thing to "pure demolitionist" you'll probably get. Lots of fun. But currently on the nerfing line.

Aye. Shieldbreaker is great, as long you play Pistol + Shield. Otherwise it´s quite average. Also takes time to farm the incredible ranged Gear needed ;(

Full Ulzuin set is love, full Ulzuin set is life. It adds weapon damage to canister bomb, and second meteor shower. Which is precisely 2 times more awesome than 1 meteor shower. Though Oathkeeper part of the build ends up being used only for its buffs that way. As I said, visually and in style it's pure demo.

[Childe Roland]

Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:

Did you play it endgame? Because it has close to zero use against anything decently strong ;)
FireRR from FlashFreeze only lasts as long as the freeze.. meaning strong content is cleared before you proc anything.. otherwise the skill would be too OP.
On the other side, strong elemental builds have ~90+RR, which means FlashFreeze not needed.
Regarding the lack of points extremely few builds can really make smart use of Screen-freeze +RR , which is Softcap or higher. Imho, Skillpoints should be invested elsewhere to kill Trashmobs ;D

With the right gear OFF will freeze anything. https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/1-1-5-2-spellbreaker-through-olexra-is-flash-freeze-100-sr-150-170-6m-75-76-without-death-full-of-provocation-arena/95111

Now, whether a Sorcerer could make use of that gear is another matter entirely.

[Th1AG0GG]

Im using a dual wielding Pyromancer, one of the funniest build i've tried.

[Wolfchild]

Honestly, I think i am leaning somewhat towards Inquisitor, would I have to use Inquisitor's seal to make it worth it? But Devistation is a Fun spell, and I guess I can try Thermites. Not really intending to use a shield, I am assuming that for the shieldbreaker that Vire's Might and/or Aegis of Menhir are used.