How's controller support?

[FusBahnta]

I've read there's loads of skills to use and a huge hotbar. Is this any good to play with a controller? Thinking about buying it.

[Psixi]

It works great, you just have less control than a mouse obviously but you can play through the whole game fine.

[H@dron]

Being new to the game I found controller real easy to set up and was functional in game. Only drawback is you cant assign like massive amounts of skills to buttons. You can assign to one trigger, all color buttons, as well as left and right on d pad without losing any of the other functionality. So thats what... 7 abilities. I wouldnt want to use more abilities than that in a build personally, seem mighty inefficient, I want to play not type :D

[eliotcole]

I've actually been having quite a few issues with this. I wanted to put health and energy on the d-pad of my XBox controller, but when assigned that in the bindings in-game, nothing changed.

Then I thought maybe if I use my Steam controller things might be better.

So I fired that up, and as far as I can see, anything that you change in the Steam Controller settings means nothing in game ... it's very confusing, and I'm not exactly sure where I'm supposed to get everything working properly.

As is, I tried playing this with Mouse and Keyboard, and it wasn't a lot of fun, so I need to really play this with the controller, and only having access to five or six actions on my controller isn't much fun.

But then I did spend about my first 2 or 3 hours not knowing that I could use anything other than just the main attack.

ANYWAY ... I'll end on a positive ... I really, really, like this game, it reminds me of D3. I think it's even got voice overs now that I have paid for the DLC (could just be a few characters and I missed it initially) ... something which I was very happy to do ... and I REALLY dislike DLC in general.

[YoshiKombat]

Originally posted by eliotcole:

I've actually been having quite a few issues with this. I wanted to put health and energy on the d-pad of my XBox controller, but when assigned that in the bindings in-game, nothing changed.

Then I thought maybe if I use my Steam controller things might be better.

So I fired that up, and as far as I can see, anything that you change in the Steam Controller settings means nothing in game ... it's very confusing, and I'm not exactly sure where I'm supposed to get everything working properly.

As is, I tried playing this with Mouse and Keyboard, and it wasn't a lot of fun, so I need to really play this with the controller, and only having access to five or six actions on my controller isn't much fun.

But then I did spend about my first 2 or 3 hours not knowing that I could use anything other than just the main attack.

ANYWAY ... I'll end on a positive ... I really, really, like this game, it reminds me of D3. I think it's even got voice overs now that I have paid for the DLC (could just be a few characters and I missed it initially) ... something which I was very happy to do ... and I REALLY dislike DLC in general.

Interesting. I use a 360 and PS4 controller and I'm able to configure them however I want through the Steam controller configuration settings. Also, you have access to two hotbars that you can map skills to which makes about 10 to 12 actions on your controller.

[eliotcole]

Yeah, that's not been an option via the in game settings.

I didn't know that one could set other controllers in the controller configuration settings of steam, I thought one was supposed to use the in game settings for controllers (which, as discussed, don't work).

the issue now is that I have the stream controller, which is way better for this, more buttons. It's configured, and other controllers are disconnected, but I'm seeing quite extreme controller/mouse issues. Will start a thread (of find one, I've not looked into it), but essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up) and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

Originally posted by Amàru:

Interesting. I use a 360 and PS4 controller and I'm able to configure them however I want through the Steam controller configuration settings. Also, you have access to two hotbars that you can map skills to which makes about 10 to 12 actions on your controller.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

I've actually been having quite a few issues with this. I wanted to put health and energy on the d-pad of my XBox controller, but when assigned that in the bindings in-game, nothing changed.

Then I thought maybe if I use my Steam controller things might be better.

So I fired that up, and as far as I can see, anything that you change in the Steam Controller settings means nothing in game ... it's very confusing, and I'm not exactly sure where I'm supposed to get everything working properly.

As is, I tried playing this with Mouse and Keyboard, and it wasn't a lot of fun, so I need to really play this with the controller, and only having access to five or six actions on my controller isn't much fun.

But then I did spend about my first 2 or 3 hours not knowing that I could use anything other than just the main attack.

ANYWAY ... I'll end on a positive ... I really, really, like this game, it reminds me of D3. I think it's even got voice overs now that I have paid for the DLC (could just be a few characters and I missed it initially) ... something which I was very happy to do ... and I REALLY dislike DLC in general.

[powbam]

Sounds like there is something more going on on your end and not so much the game since..

Originally posted by eliotcole:

essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up)

I haven't seen anything like this. Which screens in particular? I'd be happy to test and double-check.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

I just checked this and I had no issue moving the mouse to any portion of the screen that I wanted to.

[YoshiKombat]

Originally posted by eliotcole:

Yeah, that's not been an option via the in game settings.

I didn't know that one could set other controllers in the controller configuration settings of steam, I thought one was supposed to use the in game settings for controllers (which, as discussed, don't work).

the issue now is that I have the stream controller, which is way better for this, more buttons. It's configured, and other controllers are disconnected, but I'm seeing quite extreme controller/mouse issues. Will start a thread (of find one, I've not looked into it), but essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up) and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

Originally posted by Amàru:

Interesting. I use a 360 and PS4 controller and I'm able to configure them however I want through the Steam controller configuration settings. Also, you have access to two hotbars that you can map skills to which makes about 10 to 12 actions on your controller.

Oh, that's odd. I haven't encountered anything like this and I've played for about 200 hours exclusively with a controller. Hope you find a fix.

[eliotcole]

So do I ... something in there *feels* like both issues (and you *literally* can't use the shoulder buttons and more on the XBone pad through the in-game menus) are related somehow, but that could just be a load of old crap.

Where's the best place to raise these valid issues, here or somewhere else?

It's a Steam copy.

Originally posted by Amàru:

Oh, that's odd. I haven't encountered anything like this and I've played for about 200 hours exclusively with a controller. Hope you find a fix.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

Yeah, that's not been an option via the in game settings.

I didn't know that one could set other controllers in the controller configuration settings of steam, I thought one was supposed to use the in game settings for controllers (which, as discussed, don't work).

the issue now is that I have the stream controller, which is way better for this, more buttons. It's configured, and other controllers are disconnected, but I'm seeing quite extreme controller/mouse issues. Will start a thread (of find one, I've not looked into it), but essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up) and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

[eliotcole]

It's not consistent, I'll look into it, but it's literally the whole of the screen below the map section if I RB to it using the Steam Controller, then try to use the right pad to 'mouse' around the map or screen a bit.

As I say, I'll handle it elsewhere ... but just clarifying that in this thread, so that it's clear, and the thread can stay on target. I'll @ you if/when I do it here if you'd like to test for me ... that's very nice of you!

Originally posted by powbam:

Sounds like there is something more going on on your end and not so much the game since..


I haven't seen anything like this. Which screens in particular? I'd be happy to test and double-check.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up)

I just checked this and I had no issue moving the mouse to any portion of the screen that I wanted to.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

[eliotcole]

Yep. Done all that. Tried it both ways.

I've got 360s, I'll try with those at some point.

I've got video of the more serious issue with the Steam Controller, I'll take vid of the other one for later in this thread.

Originally posted by Psixi:

I have no idea what kind of problem you are having, maybe you should take a video so that others that have that problem can try and diagnose it. Any x-input controller should work, just by ticking the "non-steam controller support" in the controls/keybindings section. Where you see the M+KB binds in the first column, click on the binding you want to configure but in the 2nd column, then hit the key you want on your controller. My random 3rd-party controller works just by plugging it in, and so does my friends Xbox 360 controller. Maybe it has something to do with Xbone.

[YoshiKombat]

Originally posted by eliotcole:

So do I ... something in there *feels* like both issues (and you *literally* can't use the shoulder buttons and more on the XBone pad through the in-game menus) are related somehow, but that could just be a load of old crap.

Where's the best place to raise these valid issues, here or somewhere else?

It's a Steam copy.

Originally posted by Amàru:

Oh, that's odd. I haven't encountered anything like this and I've played for about 200 hours exclusively with a controller. Hope you find a fix.

Here should be good. Developer sometimes addresses issues. You could also try posting in the following:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/c/grimdawn
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/
https://discord.gg/j4RwHW

[eliotcole]

Cheers, @Amàru, I'll post here, duplicate in their forums, and will send an email about the mouse issue. It literally only manifests when RB'ing to the map in the select screen, so it feels like an in game issue, not a windows one. But I'm gathering data.

I'll put the controller issues in this thread, since I've started talking about it. But I need to grab video of that, and I'm more concerned (ie. I think it's more serious) with the map/mouse issues with Steam Controller.

I'm never signing up for either reddit or discord, way too anti both arena for varying reasons not worth going into here. :-)

Originally posted by Amàru:

Here should be good. Developer sometimes addresses issues. You could also try posting in the following:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/c/grimdawn
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/
https://discord.gg/j4RwHW

Originally posted by eliotcole:

So do I ... something in there *feels* like both issues (and you *literally* can't use the shoulder buttons and more on the XBone pad through the in-game menus) are related somehow, but that could just be a load of old crap.

Where's the best place to raise these valid issues, here or somewhere else?

It's a Steam copy.

Nice one, @Psixi, thanks for the response!

What's 'Steam Input Per-Game Setting', and why would I want that off?

Surely I want the Steam Controller settings to be valid in game (since they're set in the Steam management for GD), and I would assume that this is related to that. Don't mind being wrong there.

Originally posted by Psixi:

Hmmm. Try going into big picture and making sure Steam input is disabled
https://i.imgur.com/GlS3OSE.png

Also, I've decided to test by turning off the Steam overlay controls to see if that stops something in game. If it does, that would constitute a bug ... but we'll see. If the Steam overlay is off, does that make 'Guide button focuses Steam' irrelevant? Or should I switch to big picture to test that anyway?

Originally posted by Psixi:

These are my controller settings
https://i.imgur.com/jOwGYfl.png
You could try messing with turning Xbox Config Support On/Off but that's what mine is

[Childe Roland]

Originally posted by eliotcole:

but essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up) and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

This sounds to me like you need to calibrate your gamepad to work with your computer. There should be an option for that; you should try it and see if that helps. Because this sounds like a classic "improperly calibrated joystick/gamepad" issue.

[eliotcole]

Thanks again, @Psixi, I'm solidly using a Steam Controller now (it's mostly fab !), I've given up on XBone because it's got too few a buttons, but I feel like the second (map/mouse?) issue I've presented may become too much of an issue and I'd like to have access to the full XBone controller button set, instead of not being able to change the shoulders and left trigger at all.

Originally posted by Psixi:

I don't know what the specifics of that setting is, just that when I googled problems with controllers that was one of the suggestions that worked for someone, also it's never been turned on for me for any game. It's off by default. This shouldn't matter since you're using a Xbone and not steam controller.

Steam overlay doesn't interfere with it and turning it off shouldn't affect anything but performance if you're on a slower machine.

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Hi, @Childe Roland, I was pretty certain that calibrating gamepads went out with VISTA or 7, mate. I'm using a Steam Controller in Steam software, with a game running in Steam, and as a secondary the most used controller on PC ... the XBox (One or 360 ... I'd guess it's the 360, though ... as stated, need to test the 360) controller that is made by the makers of the operating system.

However, I'll go wiggle the joysticks around in the control panel for gamepads, too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Originally posted by Childe Roland:

This sounds to me like you need to calibrate your gamepad to work with your computer. There should be an option for that; you should try it and see if that helps. Because this sounds like a classic "improperly calibrated joystick/gamepad" issue.

Originally posted by eliotcole:

but essentially there's a mouse drift (certain screens make it move up) and exclusionary (on map it won't go below the top of the map area) issue.

[Psixi]

Oh okay maybe you can still post visually the issue with map/mouse that you're having on steam controller. That being said steam controllers are fantasic, for what they're made for, I would definitely use one over my x-input standard controller any time. Too bad they don't sell them no more.