Devotions and skill binding

[frdnwsm]

What are the criteria for whether or not skill can be bound to a Devotion?

I have a level 38 Apostate with 3 completed Devotions. I only have 3 skills that can be bound to them: Bone Harvest, Call of the Grave and Spectral Binding. None of my others qualify.

OK, I know that basic weapon attacks don't work for this. I have summon Blight Fiend, but that apparently won't do. OK, I can sort of see that summoning a pet would be in a different category, so let's omit that. But Storm Box of Elegoth also doesn't work. Why not? As far as I can see, Storm Box falls into the same skill category as Bone Harvest. I can bind a devotion to fire strike but not to reaping strike. What's up with that?

[frdnwsm]

OK, no one knows the answer?

Some Devotions will accept only certain specific bindings, while other are more flexible. I stuck Mark of Dreeg on my offhand item, and some Devotions were able to accept Eye of Dreeg as a binding. Still none that will take Storm Box or Reaping Strike, however.

Anyone able to clarify what's going on here? Why do Devotions vary in what they accept? I would have thought that they would all be uniform, if just for simplicity's sake.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

not sure, it sounds weird
what devotions, exactly, are you trying to bind, that wont attach to reaping strike or or storm box
i just tried a bunch and didn't find any that didn't all attach to all 3 skills
since they are equally "attack skills" it also seems like they should allow all attack proc devotions equally
so which devotions could you attach to infinite eye(dreeg component) but not storm box/reaping strike?
(and obviously aura/passive procs can't be attached to attack skills if that's the case)

[Wintermute]

There are, generally, 2 groups - devotions that bind to auras (usually those that activate upon being hit or on health levels), and devotions that bind to attack skills (activations on attacks). However, there's no universal rule because over time some weird things got patched out. Like, you can't bind devotions that create pets to other pets. And since arcane bomb, for example, is a pet from mechanical point of view... Well, you get the idea.

Any particular devotions you have trouble with? Might be easier to explain then.

[frdnwsm]

OK, I was wrong about Storm Box; it CAN be bound to a devotion, I just hadn't completed the right one. I just finished Dryad and that one is perfectly fine with Storm Box as a trigger. However, the other devotions I have, Ghoul and Turtle, don't want to know about Storm box. Instead, I had to bind them to stuff like Spectral Binding (passive Necromancer skill) and Guile (from the relic of the same name). They would also have accepted skills like Call of the Grave and Deadly Aim.

[Gregor]

Originally posted by frdnwsm:

OK, I was wrong about Storm Box; it CAN be bound to a devotion, I just hadn't completed the right one. I just finished Dryad and that one is perfectly fine with Storm Box as a trigger. However, the other devotions I have, Ghoul and Turtle, don't want to know about Storm box. Instead, I had to bind them to stuff like Spectral Binding (passive Necromancer skill) and Guile (from the relic of the same name).

Ghoul does trigger when your health reaches a Threshhold , so an attack skill like the Stormbox is no good for it.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

well yea, ofc, those are defensive procs, and can only be attached to auras/"passives"
offensive to offensive/on chance on attack to attack skill, and chance when hit to passives/auras
basically if it seems defensive, like turtle or ghoul it's always to a passive/aura

[frdnwsm]

Hmm, I had always regarded Dryad as pretty much a defensive Devotion also. Isn't the fact that I can bind it to Storm Box a bit contradictory?

[Draug]

Don't think of them as defense or offensive. Look at the conditions for activation. In general, if the celestial skill activates on attack or critical attack, then it has to be on an attack skill or pet. If it is a when hit, on block, or at health threshold proc, it needs to be on a buff skill of some sort.

In Dryad's case, the skill is activated "on attack" so it has to be on an attack skill.

[Carl!!!!]

Devotions that proc "on attack/critical attack" have to be bound to attack skills or pets. However, if the devotion provides a buff/heal/summon, it can only be bound to an attack skill. Direct damage attacks/debuffs can be bound to pets.

Devotions that proc "when hit, on block, at xx% health" can only be bound to your buffs/auras. Those are best bound to auras or a buff that is almost permanently up.

Just gotta check how it's worded.