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Windwalker Jan 29, 2020 @ 9:51pm
Easy build for someone with a hand injury?
I'm looking for a fun ARPG that I can play casually on PC. Unfortunately, I have a hand injury which is making gaming challenging. I've played Diablo 3 and Path of Exile, but they're just so serious and dark. How difficult is Grim Dawn? Are there some builds that can be played with ease, preferably without a ton of movement? Maybe something that's very tanky, or a minion build where the minions do most of the damage? If so, is there a place to find these builds?

Thanks!
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+|A.O|+ Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:04pm 
I think many builds in grim dawn can be converted to keyboard builds. If hitting a few keys on the keyboard is ok, you should try it out!

I haven't seen a passive build though (like PoE has -> movement on taking damage)
Windwalker Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:08pm 
Originally posted by MNI +|A.O|+:
I think many builds in grim dawn can be converted to keyboard builds. If hitting a few keys on the keyboard is ok, you should try it out!

I haven't seen a passive build though (like PoE has -> movement on taking damage)

Yeah, PoE has necro zombie builds where the minions do 100% of the damage while you move around. That's a little too passive for me. I'm wondering if Grim Dawn has something in between active and passive.
+|A.O|+ Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:09pm 
yep, even minion builds here (atleast early on) are not passive.

Later on though, depending on which build guide you follow, become a self-cast buff + curse or directed spell caster (similar to curses but a different approach).
Gregor Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:30pm 
If you don't rely on someone who's levelling you, you should start out with 2handed ranged.

Move on the left mousebutton and then you'll get access to a skill preferable bindeable to your second mousebutton.
Since I'm not aware of what your mouse can I can only recommend anything that starts out working like that, even if you want to just click the summons later and the skillbar can be switched between 1 and 2 with the mouse as well.
So anything, that does not challenge many CDs can work somewhat fine.(And though AAR can become playable with 1 hand, you need some gear, and if you start out , with iskandras elemental exchange, you can go for ranged , until you access Trozans Skyshard, that you bind on the right or Olexras Flash Freeze, just as utitility, though Trozans offer ranged attack, then later you can hold the right mousebutton and drain your energy with massive DPS. With the right gear it's either the enemy or you that does outheal the other, and then you avoid bridging stuff the Arcanist offers.)
Healing is a progress and a state needed with injuries, make sure to survive the first level somewhat.
Brother Arivus Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:37pm 
Which of your hand is injured, the mice hand or the keyboard one?

If it is the keyboard one, some non piano build like cadence warder may be good for you (only use 2-3 button on keyboard).

But a retaliation build can be very tanky while also use less hand movement.
tukkek Jan 29, 2020 @ 10:53pm 
"Normal" difficulty is pretty easy by action-RPG standards (I, for example, started with Veteran for my first playthrough) and Grim Dawn is one of the games with most real build diversity out there, meaning that different builds do lead to different play-styles - unlike, say Path of Exile, where every "build" ultimately leads to high-mobility screen-clear due to low-HP, high-damage meta. One of those play-styles is likely to suit your needs, if you put in the time to find one that does.

If you're still unsure, the game and DLC go on sale many times each year, up to 75% off. It's honestly the best action-RPG ever made at this point in time and it's almost a crime that they sell the whole package (or just base game) this cheap, so you cannot go wrong giving it a try then!

Finally, I should say that depending on the severity of your injury, maybe Grim Dawn will still be too much for you but I'm pretty sure it's definitely the best bet for it, of all similar games out there. Ultimately, you can even ask people to help you by modding the game (people on the forums and/or reddit can do crazy modding in a matter of a day or two, especially if its something simple like just halving all monster HPs - no harm in asking!) but you can also just overlevel before moving ahead too, as monsters aren't infinitely scaling on most difficulty tiers, including normal.

If you're technically inclined, this modding tool makes it easy to make broad changes to the entire game, like giving you a lot more HP, leveling faster, reduce amount of monsters, etc. If you're technically inclined, you can literally make the game as easy or hard as you want https://github.com/azakhi/GDModdingTool/blob/master/Example%20Configurations/config_ALL.txt
Gregor Jan 29, 2020 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by tukkek:
"Normal" difficulty is pretty easy by action-RPG standards (I, for example, started with Veteran for my first playthrough) and Grim Dawn is one of the games with most real build diversity out there, meaning that different builds do lead to different play-styles - unlike, say Path of Exile, where every "build" ultimately leads to high-mobility screen-clear due to low-HP, high-damage meta. One of those play-styles is likely to suit your needs, if you put in the time to find one that does.

If you're still unsure, the game and DLC go on sale many times each year, up to 75% off. It's honestly the best action-RPG ever made at this point in time and it's almost a crime that they sell the whole package (or just base game) this cheap, so you cannot go wrong giving it a try then!

Finally, I should say that depending on the severity of your injury, maybe Grim Dawn will still be too much for you but I'm pretty sure it's definitely the best bet for it, of all similar games out there. Ultimately, you can even ask people to help you by modding the game (people on the forums and/or reddit can do crazy modding in a matter of a day or two, especially if its something simple like just halving all monster HPs - no harm in asking!) but you can also just overlevel before moving ahead too, as monsters aren't infinitely scaling on most difficulty tiers, including normal.

If you're technically inclined, this modding tool makes it easy to make broad changes to the entire game, like giving you a lot more HP, leveling faster, reduce amount of monsters, etc. If you're technically inclined, you can literally make the game as easy or hard as you want https://github.com/azakhi/GDModdingTool/blob/master/Example%20Configurations/config_ALL.txt

1 hand gunning and running is playable for a long, and you can acces the Lore.
It's not the eyes that are injured.
With some practice healthpots on click.
And then some patience and no overrushing. With infinite respawns and pressing on the rift button, you can manage that .
Gregor Jan 29, 2020 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by Gregor:
Originally posted by tukkek:
"Normal" difficulty is pretty easy by action-RPG standards (I, for example, started with Veteran for my first playthrough) and Grim Dawn is one of the games with most real build diversity out there, meaning that different builds do lead to different play-styles - unlike, say Path of Exile, where every "build" ultimately leads to high-mobility screen-clear due to low-HP, high-damage meta. One of those play-styles is likely to suit your needs, if you put in the time to find one that does.

If you're still unsure, the game and DLC go on sale many times each year, up to 75% off. It's honestly the best action-RPG ever made at this point in time and it's almost a crime that they sell the whole package (or just base game) this cheap, so you cannot go wrong giving it a try then!

Finally, I should say that depending on the severity of your injury, maybe Grim Dawn will still be too much for you but I'm pretty sure it's definitely the best bet for it, of all similar games out there. Ultimately, you can even ask people to help you by modding the game (people on the forums and/or reddit can do crazy modding in a matter of a day or two, especially if its something simple like just halving all monster HPs - no harm in asking!) but you can also just overlevel before moving ahead too, as monsters aren't infinitely scaling on most difficulty tiers, including normal.

If you're technically inclined, this modding tool makes it easy to make broad changes to the entire game, like giving you a lot more HP, leveling faster, reduce amount of monsters, etc. If you're technically inclined, you can literally make the game as easy or hard as you want https://github.com/azakhi/GDModdingTool/blob/master/Example%20Configurations/config_ALL.txt

1 hand gunning and running is playable for a long, and you can acces the Lore.
It's not the eyes that are injured.
With some practice healthpots on click.
And then some patience and no overrushing. With infinite respawns and pressing on the rift button, you can manage that .

Then you add the Mirror of Ereoctes, since it'S better then "Bladebarrier" and earlier accessable and well you'll get to the Loghorrean with the supportive experience of the Arcanist pointdrain xD Without +Skills Gear you need Skillpoints past the unmodded Cap offered.
Gregor Jan 29, 2020 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by Gregor:
Originally posted by Gregor:

1 hand gunning and running is playable for a long, and you can acces the Lore.
It's not the eyes that are injured.
With some practice healthpots on click.
And then some patience and no overrushing. With infinite respawns and pressing on the rift button, you can manage that .

Then you add the Mirror of Ereoctes, since it'S better then "Bladebarrier" and earlier accessable and well you'll get to the Loghorrean with the supportive experience of the Arcanist pointdrain xD Without +Skills Gear you need Skillpoints past the unmodded Cap offered.

And that concept can go towards Battlemage, which can be tried to be pulled towards the retailbuild options of the soldier and the beneficial shield abilites , with another way reaching "Facetanking" or killing through getting attacked.
Iconik Jan 29, 2020 @ 11:34pm 
Zoo builds. Zoo builds all the way. You can play them while sleeping.
MedeaFleecestealer Jan 30, 2020 @ 12:31am 
Have a look at Maya's lazy pet builds here

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/the-carnival-a-guide-to-pets/81781

The Fluffy Squishy is the strongest of these and doesn't need that many buttons pushing.
FlamingX21 Jan 30, 2020 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by Samuelvania:
Zoo builds. Zoo builds all the way. You can play them while sleeping.
tru
sfbistimg Jan 30, 2020 @ 11:20am 
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/pZrWzJ3N

You can play different style (DW, 1H/Shield, 1H/Caster Offhand or 2H Melee)
you can use either Pneumatic Burst or Word of Renewal (if you go DW I recommend Pneumatic Burst)
you can also swap out word of pain for Rune of Haggard if you don't have enough OA or just prefer the skill. Personally I prefer Word of Pain in this build as it has no cooldown.

And depending on what gear you use you can change the skills point distribution.
Night's Chill, Aura of Censure, Shadow Strike & Nightfall you want them to be as high as you can get them.

Blizzard & Meteor Shower can be put on either skill, which ever way you prefer them.

Left over points can go into the 3 Nightblades passives on bottom of nightblade tree

It's a 3 button build so should easily be able to play with 1 hand.
Last edited by sfbistimg; Jan 30, 2020 @ 11:26am
KG Jan 30, 2020 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Goatleaker:
I'm looking for a fun ARPG that I can play casually on PC. I've played Diablo 3 and Path of Exile, but they're just so serious and dark.

People may have focused a bit too much on the hand injury thing, not enough on this.

I haven't played D3 since before the expansion came out, nor PoE since I think right after release (it still seemed to have a lot of lore not yet filled in), but neither of those was as Dark as Grim Dawn is. Grim Dawn is about a world where the humans have already lost. The main character is just trying to help them survive. Not recover, not kick the monsters out for good, but to maybe elbow some space in which humans with families and a little bit of self-determination can take shelter and get on with life as best they can.

You make decisions between human factions where you have to guess who is the "least bad" option. If you make a few wrong decisions you can call back into the world the banished avatar of a blood-thirsty deity idolized (not that it cares beyond how useful they may be) by cannibals and living spirits of hunger.

The "nice" gods of Cairn are the ones who think all the commotion is kind of interesting but intend to stay out of the way and look out for Number One - maybe they'll help their devoted followers if it isn't dangerous or too much trouble but they'd rather you do the actual work.

Grim Dawn is maybe not the place to look if you want something more lighthearted and 'fun' than D3 or PoE. You might consider Torchlight 2 (or the original) though as a game I don't consider it as good as Grim Dawn or PoE. On the other hand it is moddable and there are some major revamps for it that I never tried - one of those might very well fix my itemization and skill viability complaints. I don't remember how easy it would be to play with hand issues though, sorry.
Last edited by KG; Jan 30, 2020 @ 11:47am
Grim Dawn is enjoyable one-handed for a few weeks with at least 5 buttons on your mouse :FlashFreeze:
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