ulo cleansing water any good?

[MotherBird]

is there any boss that uses self benefing auro or simular something? and can cleansing water remove that?

[Halcyon]

Lots and lots of them. And yes it can remove them.

Cleansing water can be very good if you bind it to a skill you have control over rather than an auto attack or a WPS since it essentially gives you access to Nullification without taking Arcanist.

[RodHull]

Its very good, not build defining but if you need blue and yellow nodes its definitely worth picking specially for casters and high dps glass cannons, reflect aura begone!!

[baddog993]

I usually put this on all my builds. In the higher levels of the game like Elite and above it comes in very handy. In something like Veteran level its probably not needed.

[KG]

On the other hand I'm not a fan of it. The few boss self-buffs that really concern me cannot be nullified. Not to mention the too-long cooldown and un-aimable nature of Ulo.

[Raviel]

i'd say no.
ability has too long couldown and reflect is not worth dispelling (you get so much reflect damage reduction from other constellations that facetanking it shouldn't be an isssue, if you can't face tank it after 50%+ reduction, you need to be tankier anyway, just going to die to something else other than reflect)

if anything maybe i would take it for ressists and to get enough points to unlock other constellations.

[RodHull]

Diposting pertama kali oleh KG:

On the other hand I'm not a fan of it. The few boss self-buffs that really concern me cannot be nullified. Not to mention the too-long cooldown and un-aimable nature of Ulo.

Most builds that make good use of it, namely casters nearly always have a skill they can attach it to that makes it targettable. Doom bolt for occultists for example.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raviel:

i'd say no.
ability has too long couldown and reflect is not worth dispelling (you get so much reflect damage reduction from other constellations that facetanking it shouldn't be an isssue, if you can't face tank it after 50%+ reduction, you need to be tankier anyway, just going to die to something else other than reflect)

if anything maybe i would take it for ressists and to get enough points to unlock other constellations.

Not my experience, for example i have a toon who hits for around 100 to 150k aether damage he only has 11k health, even allowing for maxed aether resist and reflect reduction if i crit a reflect minion it hits me harder than any mob can actually hit me. And its just generally useful, if your stacked with dots and debuffs it clears them as well, it dispels any maivens style shields that make some mobs hard to take down, it removes buffs you arent always even aware an enemy has running so ones other minions have cast on it (like priests and such who can buff others) And the constellation its on has good other nodes and grants 3 blue 2 yellow so if your need those theres no reason not to get it.

[Faust Wither]

its good skill if you are clas that can't nullified buff from enemy. i often using it for fightning nemesis.

[Anathema]

Its cooldown is way too long and its radius is way too small to justify its position as a tier 2 devotion. If it were a tier 1, it might not be such a poor investment. The other nodes offer nice bonuses instead in order to compensate for the ability being so weak, but that's not good enough for me.

[RodHull]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Anathema:

Its cooldown is way too long and its radius is way too small to justify its position as a tier 2 devotion. If it were a tier 1, it might not be such a poor investment. The other nodes offer nice bonuses instead in order to compensate for the ability being so weak, but that's not good enough for me.

I view it as a tier 1 tbh, as it gives pretty good rewards node points wise, much better than many tier 2 devotions. If your going for high blue/yellow tier 3 nodes here aren't that many other good picks you have to sort of actively avoid it tbh

[Raviel]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RodHull:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Anathema:

Its cooldown is way too long and its radius is way too small to justify its position as a tier 2 devotion. If it were a tier 1, it might not be such a poor investment. The other nodes offer nice bonuses instead in order to compensate for the ability being so weak, but that's not good enough for me.

I view it as a tier 1 tbh, as it gives pretty good rewards node points wise, much better than many tier 2 devotions. If your going for high blue/yellow tier 3 nodes here aren't that many other good picks you have to sort of actively avoid it tbh

not really:
Crane + Solemn watcher + crossroads = 8 yellow and you can get everything that requires yellow except ishtak, which was heavily nerfed and might not be worth taking anymore unless on a summoner.

Crane gives 5 points, so to replace it with ulo, you would need an other yellow constellation(so many extra devotion points needed).
Solemn watcher gives 5% DA with is much harder to come by on most builds than ressists, also you need 3k+ DA to not get critically hit by nemesis and stronger bosses that already hit like a truck. one dispell in 20 seconds is not going to compare to that.

so you need to invest lots of spare devotion points in order to get it and give up on potential tier 3 devotion nodes which could give much better bonuses.


i mean your char sounds extremely squishy and might need dispell for reflect. mine mostly have 20k+ hp and can easily survive reflect damage without it.
their dps is a bit lower i guess, just around 100k

literally no reason for me to take it on any of my chars so far. i don't even use nullification on arcanyst based chars to be honest.

your build is different and the idea behind it is different, so it really depends what you are looking for...

[Xervous]

Ulo is too far out of the way on many builds, it has poor affinity rewards, the proc is on a rather lengthy cooldown for the overall investment.

Pass on it

[ZarahNeander]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Xervous:

Ulo is too far out of the way on many builds, it has poor affinity rewards, the proc is on a rather lengthy cooldown for the overall investment.

Pass on it

I wouldn't call a 1:1 return ' poor affinity rewards'

[Xervous]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ZarahNeander:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Xervous:

Ulo is too far out of the way on many builds, it has poor affinity rewards, the proc is on a rather lengthy cooldown for the overall investment.

Pass on it

I wouldn't call a 1:1 return ' poor affinity rewards'

points in = points out is poor affinity reward when a plethora of other devotions (some with more impact than ulo) return N+1 or N+2 on investment

[RodHull]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Xervous:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ZarahNeander:

I wouldn't call a 1:1 return ' poor affinity rewards'

points in = points out is poor affinity reward when a plethora of other devotions (some with more impact than ulo) return N+1 or N+2 on investment

It has identical affinity rewards to solemn watcher and shield maiden (two other tier 2s) and it has an active skill, where as they just provide raw stats/buffs

Id hardly call that poor.

Like i said originally, its not ever going to be build defining or even something you actively shoot for but if you need blue/yellow and your playing a caster type build its well worth a pick up has saved me a lot of hassle many times.

[ZarahNeander]

Now I'm way too lazy to go through all the T2 constellation (obviously only those count), but I doubt you find a better ratio.
Proove me wrong....