Worst class combo

[Redbottom]

I've been playing this game for some time now, experimenting with several class combos. But now i sort of feel up for a challenge.
So does anyone have an opinion as to what the worst class combo would be? I want to see if i can make it work.

[Redbottom]

I am aware that single mastery or non would be more challenging. But that was not really what i was asking for. I want a bad class COMBO. Something that will force me to struggle a bit with finding good synergies and put me out of my comfort zone by playing different style than i am used to.
Started my defiler last night. Cleared warden krieg. will press on tonight.

[Patches]

Necromancer + Demo seems like the worst combo.

[Redbottom]

Yeah Patches. It really does. But i have a plan for it. Not sure if it's a good plan, but it's a plan.
As i said, cleared Krieg. So far so good.

[FatRats.org]

I've never tried one, but a Battlemage sounds pretty bad tbh, but maybe i'm overlooking something. Other than that, my first character (which I still have only in the low 40's since I moved on to other ones) is a Witchblade and I had a blast with it pre-release of the game. Only later when I was testing some other classes did I found out how awful it was comparatively. I think it's probably a pretty good class combo and a lot has changed since then; I was probably just unlucky gear drops and whatnot more than anything. Still might want to check what others have to say about that.

A Defiler sounds like a bad combo as well

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Patches:

Necromancer + Demo seems like the worst combo.

Yep pretty much this, also id put a word in for Arcanist + Shaman

Originally posted by Der Zwiebel Ahmer Leichenräuber:

I've never tried one, but a Battlemage sounds pretty bad tbh, but maybe i'm overlooking something

Well therein lies the issue with the OPs question, I mean even something as obviously awkward as Necromancer + Demo can be made reasonably effective by merely focusing on one class mainly just using the other for support skills, which is how most Battlemages work, they tend to be either heavily Soldier based with arcanist support skills or vice versa, so they tend to be fairly strong.

[Finnvbot]

I see no mention of the Apostate (Necro + Inquisitor). Can someone experienced with the class weigh in on it?

Originally posted by RodHull:

also id put a word in for Arcanist + Shaman

inb4 Matthew and his 20k HP 3k DA Druid
Isn't Druid still the top dog when it comes to TSS spam? I play mine with Temporal Arcblade and 3 pieces of the Iskandra's set (I'm missing the regular amulet) and it's fun to see the elemental/aether madness on the screen. I think the issue lies with Aether damage being paired with either lightning or fire, so you basically have to spread your damage types and Arcanist doesn't have a good res debuff which is essential on Utlimate. And the Blind Sage constellation is super expensive.

[KG]

Elementalist (Demo + Shaman) is the worst good-looking combination. Yeah, I know, some people have played one since the Light's Defender set was introduced. Yes, lots of synergy on paper. It plays like garbage, though. Flashbang, Thermite Mines, Wind Devil, BWC for RR, Wendigo Totem, and at least one Savagery charge for OA & DA - now you're ready to actually try to deal damage! Except your thermite mines died or the monster moved out of their AoE. And BWC flew to the edge of the screen instead of where you aimed. Now you need to charge Savagery again too...

Originally posted by Finnvbot:

I see no mention of the Apostate (Necro + Inquisitor). Can someone experienced with the class weigh in on it?

Uroboruuk DE (Death Sentence = Aether RR) or 100% elemental -> vitality conversion plus 30% Vitality RR with 2x Decree of Malmouth. The End.

[Finnvbot]

The issue lies with Thermite Mines being super clunky. Apart from the Light's Defender, I recall a dual-wield Crystallum build that was quite successful in vanilla. Oddly enough, I still haven't played the Elementalist enough to comment on it, although I wish Demolitionist and Nightblade also had Exclusive powers (the only two masteries that don't have any).

[KG]

Originally posted by Finnvbot:

The issue lies with Thermite Mines being super clunky. Apart from the Light's Defender, I recall a dual-wield Crystallum build that was quite successful in vanilla. Oddly enough, I still haven't played the Elementalist enough to comment on it, although I wish Demolitionist and Nightblade also had Exclusive powers (the only two masteries that don't have any).

I played Elementalist a lot back when I started. It was really clunky even then but tolerable because you didn't have enough skill points to pump all the support skills, meaning you spent more time actually damaging stuff (without losing out compared to other builds) plus other strong builds tended to be more awkward back then if you ask me. Now... why would I want Elementalist when I could play Vindicator or Purifier (or even Conjurer) with less headache, more speed, and better defenses? Demo needs some help.

[Finnvbot]

Most definitely. Which is a shame because Shaman and Demo are my two favourite masteries.

[MotherBird]

defiler. defiler is sure a worst one

[INC3NSUS]

Not sure the worst took about 15 so far through to 30 or so. One permadeath so far is...
DIRGE

VITALITY, ACID, POISON

TORTISE, BAT, GALLOWS, SCORPIOIN, VULTURE, MATICORE, EYE, DYING GOD, RAVEN, ABOMINATION

NIGHTBLADE 20
DUEL BLADES > SHLD SET?

DUEL BLADES 2 BELGOTHIAN SHEERS 8 NADALLIANS HIDDEN HAND 8 ARARASTAS QUICK CUT 8
SHADOW STRIKE 1
PNEUMATIC BURST 12 SHADOW DANCE 12
BREATH OF 1
PHANTASMAL ARMOUR 12 ANATOMY OF MURDER 12 MERCILOUS REPITOIRE 10

OCCULTIST 30
SOEALS WITCHFIRE 12 SECOND RITE 12
CURSE OF FRAILTY 10 VUNERABILITY 10 BLOOD OF DREEG 16
ASPECT OF GUARDIAN 12

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Finnvbot:

I see no mention of the Apostate (Necro + Inquisitor). Can someone experienced with the class weigh in on it?

Originally posted by RodHull:

also id put a word in for Arcanist + Shaman

inb4 Matthew and his 20k HP 3k DA Druid
Isn't Druid still the top dog when it comes to TSS spam? I play mine with Temporal Arcblade and 3 pieces of the Iskandra's set (I'm missing the regular amulet) and it's fun to see the elemental/aether madness on the screen. I think the issue lies with Aether damage being paired with either lightning or fire, so you basically have to spread your damage types and Arcanist doesn't have a good res debuff which is essential on Utlimate. And the Blind Sage constellation is super expensive.

Well like I said its one of the strengths of GD tbh that any class combo even really awkward ones that have not much synergy can be made good. I have a bleed caster warder that can take out Moose in about 20 seconds, and a 2h ranged aether rifleman thats pretty nifty but it doesnt make those builds good particularly :)

And like i said if you just use arcanist as a support class it kinda fits with anything and shaman is strong on its own, it doesnt really need much help. But I wager anything a shaman / arcanist can do another class combo could do better. I mean its not the worst but its just meh, overall though id agree with the general theme being demolitionist and necro being very weak and actually demo and various other classes. Demo feels the most outdated of all the classes these days since Inquisitors became a thing.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by I LOVE LEMBAS!!:

I've never tried one, but a Battlemage sounds pretty bad tbh, but maybe i'm overlooking something. O

I have longer time battlemage build around krieg set in my head. Already made it in tools (only:p:-)
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2MkGMWZ

imho it looks damn good and viable to play! Gonna try it one day..