New Expansion - Story Question

[Suislide]

Father Kymon is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ betrayer though there was some hints of that in the original game. If you choose Deaths Vigil instead, are they the betrayers in the Forgotten Gods? Or is it always the Kymon people?

[Ficelle]

FG is the same, no matter your faction

Some dialogues are different depending on if you are Kymon or Order aligned
There are also some small differences with minor NPCs

If you are sided with Kymon, you can also pay a visit to the Kymon HQ and see how they react to the 'revelation'

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Always father Kymon

[Suislide]

I did do that, damn so I should have chose Death's Vigil the entire time!

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by Suislide:

I did do that, damn so I should have chose Death's Vigil the entire time!

why???, it's okay/fun to get both sides of interactions, not to mention augs if needed
^and from a story point it's interesting to see the remaining's, non kovark chosen's, delusion and complete denial of things, really cementing their braindead fanatical cult

[Faust Wither]

be me, a shaman join kymon chosen, learn thier secret, take necromancer class then betray kemon chosen and join Death's Vigil.

[Aetrion]

You find out that Kymon lied to the Chosen even before this DLC. If you do their last mission in the base game you meet the messenger who reveals to you that he doesn't speak for Empyrion.

On the other hand, this DLC does add the Oathkeeper who can straight up summon Guardians of Empyrion, and the name also hints at the idea that it's a character who stayed true to Empyrion. There are also still Chosen left who follow their original mission and haven't joined up with Kymon in worshipping Korvaak.

[Ficelle]

Kymon faction is much more interesting lore and story wise (in my opinion)

Yep, they are bigots and i hate bigots)

But in Grim Dawn, contrary to Earth, gods are real with real power...
So, bigotry is at least understandable, especially if the god is helping fighting another evil god (real too with real power)

[FlamingX21]

Originally posted by Aetrion:

You find out that Kymon lied to the Chosen even before this DLC. If you do their last mission in the base game you meet the messenger who reveals to you that he doesn't speak for Empyrion.

On the other hand, this DLC does add the Oathkeeper who can straight up summon Guardians of Empyrion, and the name also hints at the idea that it's a character who stayed true to Empyrion. There are also still Chosen left who follow their original mission and haven't joined up with Kymon in worshipping Korvaak.

true, when u meet "The Messanger", Okaloth... he is gonna tell you he works for Korvaak or someone else not Empyrion.

Empyrion doesn't show himself at all, which makes me think, its kinda weird in a way...

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by FlamingX21:

Empyrion doesn't show himself at all, which makes me think, its kinda weird in a way...

he's just off pining and crying, drowning his sorrows in tons of wine after boobbysmiel lady seduced, fooled and and broke up with him

[Ficelle]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

Originally posted by FlamingX21:

Empyrion doesn't show himself at all, which makes me think, its kinda weird in a way...

he's just off pining and crying, drowning his sorrows in tons of wine after boobbysmiel lady seduced, fooled and and broke up with him

It is Ulzuin who was abused by Biymiel, not Empyrion ;D
The witch gods took power by luring him away from his guard job (it was Bysmiel part of the plan)

Empryrion is nowhere to be seen, perhaps as dead as Chton
There are clues it could be Korvaak brother

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

he's just off pining and crying, drowning his sorrows in tons of wine after boobbysmiel lady seduced, fooled and and broke up with him

It is Ulzuin who was abused by Biymiel, not Empyrion ;D
The witch gods took power by luring him away from his guard job (it was Bysmiel part of the plan)

Empryrion is nowhere to be seen, perhaps as dead as Chton
There are clues it could be Korvaak brother

lol i keep mixing "characters" up, like switching cthon with korvaak sometimes too etc hahaha,
cheers for the reminder Ficelle

[Ficelle]

Eheh, it happens to all of us ;D