Cant kill Furys

[Medicles]

I havent played this game very often, but recently i bought the latest expansion for the oathkeeper. I am currently in act 1, i have put most of my skill points into the mastery and 1 point in each of the skills/passives i want to use eventually. Because why not? The game allows me to do it so i guess the game is balanced around the option to do it. I realize i do not much damage, i have to rely on triggering passives most of the time to get some heavy hits in and its enough for the majority of enemys. Except a basic enemy named "Furys". They heal themself so much with one hit, i am actually not able to kill them, unless i might trigger one of the passives with every hit, which is quite unlikely, since they only have an 8% chance to trigger with one point in.

This is quite demoralizing, since it is the proof that the game is obviously not balanced around every option i could take, so spending all the points on the mastery was quite a mistake and i am not able to reverse this. Am i missing something here, can i do something else? Do i have to start over or can i just run past those Furys? Do other enemys have "lifesteal" or whatever they do?

[Sin]

You've just learned one of the most important lessons for building a character in the game. You need balance between Mastery and points in Skills.

Rule of thumb for leveling: 1 point in each main skill per 8 levels. i.e. If you're level 40 your main skills should have 5 points in them.

[powbam]

Originally posted by Medicles:

This is quite demoralizing, since it is the proof that the game is obviously not balanced around every option i could take, so spending all the points on the mastery was quite a mistake and i am not able to reverse this. Am i missing something here, can i do something else? Do i have to start over or can i just run past those Furys? Do other enemys have "lifesteal" or whatever they do?

No. What it's proof of is that you are expected to not build your character in the worst way possible. Which is exactly what you went ahead and did here. You could still kill them if you wanted to and put a minimum of brainpower behind the effort and actively attempted to avoid their hits. You could also EASILY slot a completed component into your weapons and used the imparted "skill" or "skills" to give you enough juice to take them down quickly if you absolutely insist upon building in such a poor fashion.

You could even spend 3 of your skill points on one level up and boost a damage skill with that one level and have enough to do the job.

You have plenty of options available to get the job done. Easily.

It is possible, with the first expansion - AoM, to remove points from the mastery bar at the spirit guide. AoM is required for this particular function.

[Medicles]

Come down from your high horse mate. If different ways of skilling is possible, then i expect the game to be balanced around that way. No where ingame you are told that everything spending on mastery is a bad idea. Since i get attributes from mastery, i expected this would be enough to kill every enemy without stagnation. Dont tell me this game is perfectly balanced, especially not when every build, every combination you are going for needs you to spent almost every attribute points into physique.

Also, you cant reset mastery points at the spirit guide, you can only reset them via a potion you dont get in act 1. The spirit guide can only reset points you used in skills.

[powbam]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Dont tell me this game is perfectly balanced, especially not when every build, every combination you are going for needs you to spent almost every attribute points into physique.

Who in the hell ever said it was perfectly balanced? There are way to many moving parts in this game for that to even be possible. In your particular case tho balance has absolutely nothing to do with it, in fact it actually goes to show that the balance in this case is SPOT ON. If you build your character like sh** then expect it to perform like sh**. End of story.

Originally posted by Medicles:

No where ingame you are told that everything spending on mastery is a bad idea.

Common sense tells you it's a bad idea. My suggestion: try it some times.

Originally posted by Medicles:

Also, you cant reset mastery points at the spirit guide, you can only reset them via a potion you dont get in act 1. The spirit guide can only reset points you used in skills.

Attribute Points are reset via potion. Mastery\Skill Points, including the Mastery Bar, are reset via the Spirit Guide (except for the first point in the bar).

https://www.grimdawn.com/guide/about/ashes-of-malmouth/

Reset Your Attributes and Mastery Bar – Find a new type of potion that allows you reset your Attribute Points. Speak to a Spirit Guide to unlearn the Mastery Bar down to one point.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Medicles:

If different ways of skilling is possible, then i expect the game to be balanced around that way. No where ingame you are told that everything spending on mastery is a bad idea.

No where ingame were you told that it was a good idea either. As a matter of fact you were told nothing, the game gives you the freedom to level up however you want and let's you learn how it works on your own. What you are expecting is for no bad choices to exist in the game.

[SchnitzelTruck]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Come down from your high horse mate. If different ways of skilling is possible, then i expect the game to be balanced around that way. No where ingame you are told that everything spending on mastery is a bad idea. Since i get attributes from mastery, i expected this would be enough to kill every enemy without stagnation. Dont tell me this game is perfectly balanced, especially not when every build, every combination you are going for needs you to spent almost every attribute points into physique.

Also, you cant reset mastery points at the spirit guide, you can only reset them via a potion you dont get in act 1. The spirit guide can only reset points you used in skills.

You expect a game to be balanced around braindead decision making? Where the worst possible build breezes through the game? That's the exact opposite of balance, that's making everything so ungodly trivial that there might as well not even be builds.

[Gnome d'War]

I'll just point out that some weird/masochistic people have gone extremely far in the game without taking a class. So it is possible. But then they played the game properly first and know what they're doing.

I'm curious what level you got to before this happened.

[powbam]

Originally posted by GrumpyKitten:

I'm curious what level you got to before this happened.

Well, I believe the trigger for them spawning is somewhere between levels 10 and 15. You don't usually encounter them frequently until around/in Burrwitch.

And yes, it is gravy train to kill them "classless", and quickly, if you really wanted to. All it would involve is slotting a weapon component and using said components skill. Or get more bang for your buck and, if going 1hand, slot your shield or offhand item with a component skill as well. It's that easy.

[Faust Wither]

oh you mean that red guy? yeah that thing can heal it self if it hit you, it can deal quite amount of damage, and have huge resistance to vitality damage.

my advice, focus on one hit skill for starter, like vire might.

[Legion]

This is obviously a troll.

[Cosmic Cat]

OP wants to beat the game with a white dagger. I wonder how OP plays strategy games? Perhaps by trying to conquer the world with peasents?