Nightblade Build?

[ShotBot]

Anyone got a good knightblade build, the whole quickness in battle stuff seems really fun.

https://hubpages.com/games-hobbies/Grim-Dawn-Nightblade-Build-Guides-for-Beginners
I found this build (the first one called basic blademaster) seems good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viy82TC4PxA
Also this one that seems good

Anyone got any opinions on which one is better or if there is an even better build?
Thanks

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Well, things have probably changed a bit since that build was posted as Forgotten Gods has come out since then. Also bear in mind they might be end game builds with special gear that you won't necessarily have or find. Best is to look in the Build Compendium on the forum under the Beginner Builds section to see what's possible. Unfortunately, the forum's down atm and no idea when it'll be back up again.

[ShotBot]

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Well, things have probably changed a bit since that build was posted as Forgotten Gods has come out since then. Also bear in mind they might be end game builds with special gear that you won't necessarily have or find. Best is to look in the Build Compendium on the forum under the Beginner Builds section to see what's possible. Unfortunately, the forum's down atm and no idea when it'll be back up again.

Does having the DLC matter? I really dont feel like spending $30 on DLC when I spent $8 on the game itself.

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Most builds now are for ones with both expansions, but you can have a viable build with just the base game. For Nightblade look at pairing with either Occultist or Shaman.

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Here's the compendium for the base game - note that it's quite old now and you may need to adapt any build guides you use from here.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-v-base-game/35696

Also here's the current compendium which covers both expansions. You could again adapt any beginner builds here that you like.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-x-forgotten-gods/49673

[Jughead Hellcaster]

I like NB + Necro. Piercing build seems to be good.

[Dranolth]

Originally posted by Mavis_s:

Does having the DLC matter? I really dont feel like spending $30 on DLC when I spent $8 on the game itself.

I think I've avoided buying DLCs for most of my games, but I have to say that the ones for GD are completely worth it. You get three new classes, more acts and history (if you get both, AoM and FG). At least, consider buying them on a sale.

[myarmor]

Originally posted by Mavis_s:

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Well, things have probably changed a bit since that build was posted as Forgotten Gods has come out since then. Also bear in mind they might be end game builds with special gear that you won't necessarily have or find. Best is to look in the Build Compendium on the forum under the Beginner Builds section to see what's possible. Unfortunately, the forum's down atm and no idea when it'll be back up again.

Does having the DLC matter? I really dont feel like spending $30 on DLC when I spent $8 on the game itself.

If you want to get the most of the game, I'd recommend buying them all.
AoM and FG is somewhat obvious, it almost doubles the game length (if you go through all difficulties, it'll be quite a bit more), +more classes, +more gear, ++.

Crucible is for an effective way to grind divinity points (w/o tracking down shrines first), and
gear.. The challenge is rather nice too.

[ShotBot]

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Most builds now are for ones with both expansions, but you can have a viable build with just the base game. For Nightblade look at pairing with either Occultist or Shaman.

Why are the DLC so important? I might wait till the end of the month for the Halloween sale and maybe they will be cheaper then

[Finnvbot]

Don't worry, there's more than plenty of content in the base game alone.

[Childe Roland]

Sorry about the post size, ther's a TL;DR at the bottom if you need it.

Originally posted by Mavis_s:

Why are the DLC so important?

It's not that they're so important, it's that the game gets updates periodically so the build guides need to be updated from time to time, and most of the people making the guides have both AoM and FG so the older AoM or base game guides don't get updated and may need some adjustment to work by now.

If you're willing to put in some work to adjust them when you find problems (feel free to ask for help here, just don't expect people to hold your hand the whole way through), then there are build compendiums for both the base game and AoM (depending on what you have) that you could look at for inspiration/guidance (at least once the forums are working again). Note that the base game build guides will probably be further out of date and need more work.

I've seen some people whine that "you need the DLC to make viable builds"; but that's crap. You only need the DLC if you either want the full story (or as much of it as Crate has given out to date) or just want a build guide that will hold your hand the whole way through (and I don't think there are too many that are that thorough anyway).

TL;DR:
Having all the DLC just means that you can use the most up-to-date build guides, nothing more. If you don't have it, don't worry, you'll be fine. Just check out some of the builds at the following link (assuming you just have the base game) and bear in mind that they're a little out of date with game updates, so they may need some tweaking.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-v-base-game/35696
(Thanks to MedeaFleeceStealer for posting it here first)

If you have problems making the adjustments and need some help feel free to ask.

Final note:
Don't forget the build calculator, it could help with adjusting things and seeing how things might work out:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/

[ShotBot]

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Here's the compendium for the base game - note that it's quite old now and you may need to adapt any build guides you use from here.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-v-base-game/35696

Also here's the current compendium which covers both expansions. You could again adapt any beginner builds here that you like.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-x-forgotten-gods/49673

I have decided to buy the DLC and using the link u provided, can you possibly give me (in your opnion) the best Nightblade build. I just like constantly moving and doing lots and lots of damage. I can see their is like combined classes, I really don't know the best combinations. Idk if its more of a preference thing or not. (I was looking at the Blademaster build sounds cool)

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Since you're starting out here are some beginner builds using Nightblade.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/1-1-3-0-beginners-budget-dw-cold-melee-trickster/83441

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/1-1-2-5-dw-cold-infiltrator-for-beginners-build-diary/51041

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/dw-melee-beginners-forgotten-blademaster/50586

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/sir-spanksalots-malawiglenns-beginner-guide-for-phantasmal-blades-reaper/50452

They have levelling guides and suggestions for relatively easy gear you can get ingame. See which fits best with how you'd like to play.

[Halcyon]

Originally posted by Mavis_s:

I have decided to buy the DLC and using the link u provided, can you possibly give me (in your opnion) the best Nightblade build. I just like constantly moving and doing lots and lots of damage. I can see their is like combined classes, I really don't know the best combinations. Idk if its more of a preference thing or not. (I was looking at the Blademaster build sounds cool)

Every combination can be good, it's just not always as obvious how to make it good. I personally find Infiltrator (pierce or cold variant) to be the best nightblade combination, but dervish and blademaster are also excellent.

[Lowpe]

I would vote for the dual wield cold based nightblade inquisitor. I am leveling one right now on hardcore, and can pop around the battlefield killing quite nicely and pretty safely too!

[ShotBot]

Originally posted by Halcyon:

Originally posted by Mavis_s:

I have decided to buy the DLC and using the link u provided, can you possibly give me (in your opnion) the best Nightblade build. I just like constantly moving and doing lots and lots of damage. I can see their is like combined classes, I really don't know the best combinations. Idk if its more of a preference thing or not. (I was looking at the Blademaster build sounds cool)

Every combination can be good, it's just not always as obvious how to make it good. I personally find Infiltrator (pierce or cold variant) to be the best nightblade combination, but dervish and blademaster are also excellent.

I have seen posts about a Nightblade and Infiltrator build being good and was just wondering if the pierce and cold damage come together or do u pick one. If so, which one is better in your opinion and could u link any good builds, I see these beginner builds but I assume there are better character builds, I would really like to strive for the best of the best.