Best Hack & Slash / aRPG ever?

[Nihiliste]

This game is unbelievably good, it crushes D3 fair and square, and while not as complex as PoE is infinitely more enjoyable to play.
This game has a muuuuch superior atmosphere to any arpg -except the father of them all diablo 1.
The only problems with the game are the outdated graphics. Even at 4k (1080 ti should kill this game right?) the performances are not up to the visuals and i have some slowdowns in some places. Also the Inventory screen is too ugly...
Rest? Perfect. The game is just so deep while being very dark atmosphere-wise with an outstanding OST.
Kudos to the devs!!!!

[raubrey]

"The inventory screen is ugly."

It sounds like you meant well with your post -- so please don't take offense. I was just in awe, dumbstruck really, that I'd never heard this complaint about a game before. Ever.

I really like the graphics -- never quite understood complaints about it -- but am not a 4K person, content with my BenQ monitor. If it were not a hack-n-slash, perhaps I'd be more critical. The toughest thing for me was having two character models, but one (can) soon forgets that with the gameplay.

[Unicarn]

Originally posted by raubrey:

"The inventory screen is ugly."

It sounds like you meant well with your post -- so please don't take offense. I was just in awe, dumbstruck really, that I'd never heard this complaint about a game before. Ever.

I really like the graphics -- never quite understood complaints about it -- but am not a 4K person, content with my BenQ monitor. If it were not a hack-n-slash, perhaps I'd be more critical. The toughest thing for me was having two character models, but one (can) soon forgets that with the gameplay.

The textures are great, though. It's surprising how well they hold up when looked at way up close; especially for an indie game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPSySR5xRjY

It still looks decent despite being WAY closer than you're meant to be.

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Unicarn:

The textures are great, though. It's surprising how well they hold up when looked at way up close; especially for an indie game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPSySR5xRjY

It still looks decent despite being WAY closer than you're meant to be.

That's very cool! Grim Dawn meets Wizardry

[caelcyndar5]

Originally posted by ツ Children of the Arcades ツ:

This game is unbelievably good, it crushes D3 fair and square, and while not as complex as PoE is infinitely more enjoyable to play.
This game has a muuuuch superior atmosphere to any arpg -except the father of them all diablo 1.
The only problems with the game are the outdated graphics. Even at 4k (1080 ti should kill this game right?) the performances are not up to the visuals and i have some slowdowns in some places. Also the Inventory screen is too ugly...
Rest? Perfect. The game is just so deep while being very dark atmosphere-wise with an outstanding OST.
Kudos to the devs!!!!

Anything performance related is due to Crate using the Iron Lore Engine used for Titan Quest in 2006 though it has been heavily updated, there is only so much Crate can do outside of using a new engine which would take a lot of time and especially money.

[Siddha]

Originally posted by ツ Children of the Arcades ツ:

This game is unbelievably good, it crushes D3 fair and square, and while not as complex as PoE is infinitely more enjoyable to play.
This game has a muuuuch superior atmosphere to any arpg -except the father of them all diablo 1.
The only problems with the game are the outdated graphics. Even at 4k (1080 ti should kill this game right?) the performances are not up to the visuals and i have some slowdowns in some places. Also the Inventory screen is too ugly...
Rest? Perfect. The game is just so deep while being very dark atmosphere-wise with an outstanding OST.
Kudos to the devs!!!!

It is true, Diablo 1 has outdated graphics and clunky systems
But not Grim Dawn; Grim Dawn's graphics are just fine imo
In fact I really like them; they suit the design and feel of the world
So much better than the washed-out fantasy backdrops popular in some other games
Grim Dawn actually has a world that looks and feels real
Ditto the appearance of the inventory; I see no issue there either

[Dyer1981]

the game is CPU bound. your 1080 ti isn't the issue.

[Seba]

I think it's right up there with PoE. Both are different experiences and both do a superb job in their own respective context.

Diablo 3 should not be even mentioned when talking ARPG's.

[frdnwsm]

The inventory screens do tend to get a bit messy. I'd like a better way to keep track of what item is where. The sort option attempts to rectify this, but doesn't quite cut it.

That's a relatively minor issue, however. Everything else screams superior aRPG.

[raubrey]

Originally posted by frdnwsm:

The inventory screens do tend to get a bit messy. I'd like a better way to keep track of what item is where. The sort option attempts to rectify this, but doesn't quite cut it.

That's a relatively minor issue, however. Everything else screams superior aRPG.

Aye. Functionality is quite another matter when it comes to a pretty inventory. I was thinking that the design of one (coding aside) must be a fair bit beyond 'typical' GUI concepts as relatively few games have what I consider a great inventory system. I do prefer tabs over scrolling though.

Then one must consider the sheer amount of loot. I never thought much about similar inventory systems in games like Neverwinter Nights as it takes considerably more game time to fill up the tabs. Though you have inventory bags that makes the system a bit more attractive. I can think of a couple of reasons why such might not be in this game --whether coding/engine related or for balance,though not certain which is the actual reason(s).