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Tsubaru Dec 22, 2017 @ 5:23am
Some doubts about skills/constellations
Hello everyone! Lots of questions, so here we go!

I - Can CoF crit? I want to be able to apply the assassin's dagger constellation with it.

II - Arcane barrier blocks damage after mitigation? From what I read, turtle used to be before mitigation, which made the skill utterly terrible at Ultimate.

III - Why Blind Fury is so powerful? The skill itself, the nodes are amazing! My build is physical, not sure if it would be good adding it. The internal trauma seems nice, though I could increase it with some constellations, not sure it's worth it. Does people usually make builds around IT or it's just a bonus to the main damage?

IV - The fist constellation, Vire I guess, is it any good? Or maybe Light of Empyrion. Looking for possible alternatives to Blind Fury that would still give me some dps.

V - How does the reflect of Shield Wall work? Is it worth it?

I think that's it, thanks all for the help! :D
Last edited by Tsubaru; Dec 22, 2017 @ 7:49am
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zverozvero Dec 22, 2017 @ 5:38am 
Stars with On crit dont show CoF as an option so you can assign it only to damaging skills. On attack has it possible so i guess CoF dont crit.
Last edited by zverozvero; Dec 22, 2017 @ 5:39am
Tsubaru Dec 22, 2017 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by zverozvero:
Stars with On crit dont show CoF as an option so you can assign it only to damaging skills. On attack has it possible so i guess CoF dont crit.

You are right, my friend! T-T
Burusagi Dec 22, 2017 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Kurohito:

III - Why Blind Fury is so powerful? The skill itself, the nodes are amazing! My build is physical, not sure if it would be good adding it. The internal trauma seems nice, though I could increase it with some constellations, not sure it's worth it. Does people usually make builds around IT or it's just a bonus to the main damage?


Because

a. Physical is the best damage type in the game.

b. It is a top-tier constellation.

Most physical builds are usually melee and Soldier so Blind Fury on Charge is pretty standard.
Tsubaru Dec 22, 2017 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Originally posted by Kurohito:

III - Why Blind Fury is so powerful? The skill itself, the nodes are amazing! My build is physical, not sure if it would be good adding it. The internal trauma seems nice, though I could increase it with some constellations, not sure it's worth it. Does people usually make builds around IT or it's just a bonus to the main damage?


Because

a. Physical is the best damage type in the game.

b. It is a top-tier constellation.

Most physical builds are usually melee and Soldier so Blind Fury on Charge is pretty standard.

Yeah, but why exactly is Blind Fury so good? xD I'm not saying it's bad, just want to understand the reason. Some constellations give damages similar to it. I guess the reduced physical resistance might be a reason.
Burusagi Dec 22, 2017 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Kurohito:
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:


Because

a. Physical is the best damage type in the game.

b. It is a top-tier constellation.

Most physical builds are usually melee and Soldier so Blind Fury on Charge is pretty standard.

Yeah, but why exactly is Blind Fury so good? xD I'm not saying it's bad, just want to understand the reason. Some constellations give damages similar to it. I guess the reduced physical resistance might be a reason.

That's part of it, yes.

But mostly because it is the top-tier Physical thingy - there's literally nothing else to pick! :D

Same thing with Ulzuin's Torch for fire-based build. It is simply the penultimate fire constellation.
Eizo Dec 22, 2017 @ 6:11pm 
Definition of penultimate
1 : next to the last the penultimate chapter of a book
2 : of or relating to the next to the last syllable of a word a penultimate accent


TLDR: Second best.
Last edited by Eizo; Dec 22, 2017 @ 6:11pm
Anathema Dec 22, 2017 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Eizo:
Definition of penultimate
1 : next to the last the penultimate chapter of a book
2 : of or relating to the next to the last syllable of a word a penultimate accent


TLDR: Second best.

So I guess that makes Vire the Stone Matron the best? Just a reminder that this also exists for Physical. :D:
RodHull Dec 23, 2017 @ 3:28am 
Vire is a more retaliation s&b type constellation though as opposed to olerons which is more active.
Anathema Dec 23, 2017 @ 12:18pm 
You're not thinking enough. If you want to play ranged physical you would have to take Vire as most other physical procs, including Blind Fury, require a melee weapon.
KG Dec 23, 2017 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Anathema:
You're not thinking enough. If you want to play ranged physical you would have to take Vire as most other physical procs, including Blind Fury, require a melee weapon.

You just need to be near melee range to hit with Blind Fury. Doesn't actually require a melee weapon.
Anathema Dec 23, 2017 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by KG:
Originally posted by Anathema:
You're not thinking enough. If you want to play ranged physical you would have to take Vire as most other physical procs, including Blind Fury, require a melee weapon.

You just need to be near melee range to hit with Blind Fury. Doesn't actually require a melee weapon.

I don't have my computer with me right now, but I'm fairly certain that the description says "Requires a melee weapon."
KG Dec 23, 2017 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Anathema:
Originally posted by KG:

You just need to be near melee range to hit with Blind Fury. Doesn't actually require a melee weapon.

I don't have my computer with me right now, but I'm fairly certain that the description says "Requires a melee weapon."

I'm 100% certain I just shot things with a ranged weapon and procced Blind Fury all the time. It might imply melee in the description but I don't think it says it requires a melee weapon and I know it doesn't actually need one.
Anathema Dec 23, 2017 @ 1:37pm 
Well that's just annoying. I know when I was building my physical gunner it had that restriction. I don't know when that changed. >_>
Burusagi Dec 23, 2017 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Anathema:
Originally posted by Eizo:
Definition of penultimate
1 : next to the last the penultimate chapter of a book
2 : of or relating to the next to the last syllable of a word a penultimate accent


TLDR: Second best.

So I guess that makes Vire the Stone Matron the best? Just a reminder that this also exists for Physical. :D:

It is more of a defensive sidegrade to Oleron.
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