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Ritualist vs Cabalist?
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Anathema Nov 9, 2017 @ 8:05pm 
Originally posted by Crimson Emperor:
Need answers

Topics made with no effort get responses made with no effort. You're going to need to be more specific with what you're looking for than just Ritualist or Cabalist.
Ghin Nov 9, 2017 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by Crimson Emperor:
Need answers
Gave answer.
frdnwsm Nov 10, 2017 @ 1:38am 
OK, Crimson, with 240+ hours under your belt, you should have some idea of game mechanics, but I'll try and give a general reply to your inquiry.

In any hybrid build, you have a choice of whch skill trees to emphasize. You can emphasize one mastery tree over the other, or keep them more or less equal. Look at the skill trees and see what skills would better fit your favored play style.

I have looked up Ritualist; both this and Cabalist should be viable.

Cabalist is not well suited to be a weapon user; I'm basically going to play my guy as a pure caster type, using wand/dagger and an offhand.

Ritualist throws in access to the Shaman skill tree. This opens up the possibility of using weapons; a Shaman can use Savagery with either 2 handed weapon, or one handed + shield. Of course, Ritualist can also be played as a pure caster. You can even emphasize a pet build, although Cabalist might be better for that as they get access to two pets in addition to the summoned undead.

Ritualist has access to Devouring Swarm and Wendigo totem, both of which help survivability. Sigil of Consumprion does something similar for the Cabalist, but this skill isn't available early on. Swarm comes into play sooner.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that Ritualist might be better for you, since it offers a slightly larger variation in play styles (pure caster vs melee/caster hybrid). Since changing skills is fairly cheap, you can easily explore all of them.

Just don't come back blaming me if your build sucks. You are on your own after this.

:steammocking:
Last edited by frdnwsm; Nov 10, 2017 @ 1:43am
Jonathan Nov 10, 2017 @ 3:48am 
If you compare those 2, I will take a wild guess and suppose you aim for a pet build.

Both are good.

Here is something I heard once : Cab. Would be slightly more attacky and Rit. Would be slightly more tanky. Not sure if it's true.

Also, it might simply have been luck, but I found more gear for Rit then for Cab.

I have a Cab 49 with pets. Nice and easy. But to this point, Rit would have served me just as well.
Last edited by Jonathan; Nov 10, 2017 @ 3:50am
PXR5 Nov 10, 2017 @ 5:25am 
If you go for a pet build, rit will have mutually exclusive high level skills A cabalist only has such a skill in the Necro mastery This can be good and bad as you don't need to go as high in the mastery of the shaman part
Rylocke Nov 10, 2017 @ 5:30am 
This was the best thing ever for about 10 posts.

You kinda deserved it, OP, because of your ridiculously vague wording with zero context anyway. Luckily for you, there are people far more compassionate than I roaming these halls. =p
StreamWhenGuy Nov 10, 2017 @ 5:37am 
Hamburger vs cheezburger?
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frdnwsm Nov 10, 2017 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by KamisamaLolz:
Hamburger vs cheezburger?
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No contest! The cheezburger delivers death far more swiftly, due to the extra fat and cholesterol content. Just cram a few thousand of those suckers into Cronley's mouth and watch him turn blue and die from cardiac arrest.
Last edited by frdnwsm; Nov 10, 2017 @ 6:02am
Crimson Emperor Nov 10, 2017 @ 6:56am 
Well i have a lvl70 cabalist and i feel that my pets die fast. So i was just wondering if the Ritualist will be better than a cabalist.
Finnvbot Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:00am 
Well, Heart of the Wild increases the hp by quite a lot so that may help you.
Crimson Emperor Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:03am 
hmm.
stylez Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by Crimson Emperor:
Well i have a lvl70 cabalist and i feel that my pets die fast. So i was just wondering if the Ritualist will be better than a cabalist.
That's the kind of useful, contextual information that you should have included in your original question.

You could also upload your char to http://www.grimtools.com/calc/ so people can provide feedback on your gear, skills, and/or devotions to figure out if there's a way to prevent your pets dying too fast.
Crimson Emperor Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:18am 
I don't know how to upload a char.
Crimson Emperor Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:19am 
Just wondering if the wendigo totem and all the other stuff in the shaman tree better.
Jonathan Nov 10, 2017 @ 7:32am 
There are some obvious comments that come to mind. Might be pointless but still, needs to be said :

- You might want to prioritize Pet HP%+ and Pet resistance+ over Pet DMG+, on gear and devotions.
- You have to accept skeleton deaths. They are meant to be replaceable. That is why you have 8+ of them and you can summon them 3+ at the time, with a rather small cool down.
- Expension areas are specially hard. If you do good in act 1-2-3-4, but have a hard time in act 5-6, then.... You might actually be almost ok...
- How much HP do your skelletons have ? And your Hellhound ? And your... Fat-poisony-necro-thingy ? They should have quite a lot by lv70. How much hp they have will give a good hint to other veteran Pet summoners as to where you stand and should stand...
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