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Total Speed Lowering My Attack Speed!?!?
Trying out a new build/gear combo Dual wielding 2 Exonerators I find myself perplexed.

My 2 Exonerators have +5% and +7% total speed respectively making for a total of +12% Total speed.
The speed is applied correctly to movement speed but to Attack Speed when both hand guns are equiped result in a negativ effect.
That is my characters attack speed is lowered from +132% with nothing equiped to 124% attack speed with both equiped.

If anyone has a clue why this may be so I would greatly appreciate an explanation..
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KG Sep 2, 2017 @ 6:57am 
Dual wielding confers a speed penalty to individual attacks. The net result is still faster attacks because you use both weapons in one attack half the time or more if you have WPS.
Hand_Of_Glory Sep 2, 2017 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by KG:
Dual wielding confers a speed penalty to individual attacks. The net result is still faster attacks because you use both weapons in one attack half the time or more if you have WPS.

I would say that's all good and well but I do not think thats the issue. For when I equip only one of the pistols the same thing happens more or less..

Here is what happens when I equip one or the other of the Exonerator's:
Lets call them Exon1 and Exon2.

Character attack speed goes from

Exon1 (+5% Total Speed) = CAS 137% to 132% when equipped.

Exon2 (+7% Total Speed) = CAS 137% to 134% when equipped.

That's one handed with no dual wielding skill(item) etc equipped.

So colour me still confused.. I guess I am missing something or else this is an actual bugg which I doubt..
Rylocke Sep 2, 2017 @ 11:12am 
Are they replacing an item with 10% attack speed already, or are they dropping a buff (maybe from Storm Touched) when you equip them?
Kotli Sep 2, 2017 @ 11:36am 
Hand of Glory the % number is your attack speed relitive to the base line that with no weapon and no attack speed modifers.
1. You got +37% IAS from elsewhere since unarmed is 137% AS.
2. All weapons have different base attack speeds.

In your case the Exonerators base attack speed is slow enough it more than cancels out the TAS on the weapon.
Last edited by Kotli; Sep 2, 2017 @ 11:53am
KG Sep 2, 2017 @ 11:55am 
I'm not seeing anything unexpected in my testing.



I crafted a Death's Sixgun (1.66 attacks per second, like Exonerator) to play around with.

With the Sixgun and no offhand I have 2.81 attacks/second and 157% attack speed.

With a 5% Exonerator and no offhand I have 2.89 APS and 162% attack speed.

With a 7% Exonerator and no offhand I have 2.92 APS and 164% attack speed.

With the Sixgun and the 5% Exonerator equipped I have 2.67 APS and 150% attack speed.

With the Sixgun and the 7% Exonerator equipped I have 2.7 APS and 151% attack speed.

With the 5% and 7% Exonerators equipped I have 2.78 APS and 156% attack speed.
Hand_Of_Glory Sep 2, 2017 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by Kotli:
Hand of Glory the % number is your attack speed relitive to the base line that with no weapon and no attack speed modifers.
1. You got +37% IAS from elsewhere since unarmed is 137% AS.
2. All weapons have different base attack speeds.

In your case the Exonerators base attack speed is slow enough it more than cancels out the TAS on the weapon.

Ahh now things make sense.. knew I was missing something.. but on the whole I kinda distrust +%total speed.
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Date Posted: Sep 2, 2017 @ 6:53am
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