I love this game but the leveling grind is killing it for me.

[Darksurgeon]

I guess I have gotten spoiled on Diablo 3s quick leveling. I wanna play end game and experiment with builds but I don't wanna spend 100 hours per char getting to the max level. It's starting to get boring and grindy. Such a great game, why can't the leveling be faster?

[Myagony]

From what ive heard you can just get a blank lv 85

[dentorium]

''why can't the leveling be faster?'' because levelling is the game itself. Those people who want everything faster, ruined all mmorpgs and loot based games. If levelling is super fast like in diablo 3 , whats the point of levels? Just remove levels and kill mobs and get millions of so called legendaries. Please do not ruin this game, like you did on other titles.

[Darksurgeon]

Originally posted by dentorium:

''why can't the leveling be faster?'' because levelling is the game itself. Those people who want everything faster, ruined all mmorpgs and loot based games. If levelling is super fast like in diablo 3 , whats the point of levels? Just remove levels and kill mobs and get millions of so called legendaries. Please do not ruin this game, like you did on other titles.

I am not saying it needs to be super fast, but 100+ hours to reach max level is pure insanity.

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Originally posted by Darksurgeon:

I guess I have gotten spoiled on Diablo 3s quick leveling.

Yeah, you have. D3 has far less levels that you have to obtain as well. 70 as opposed to GD's 85 (soon to be 100 when the expansion drops). You seem to be forgetting that. Getting to lvl 70 in GD can be done in 20 hours. That's about the same amount of time as it takes in D3 to get to 70. Grim Dawn just has more than D3, that's all. All end game gear in Grim Dawn can be worn at lvl 75 (also soon to change in the expansion, obviously). Grim Dawn basically has breakpoint levels, just like D2 had. Max level isn't really necessary.

[Finnvbot]

I guess OP hasn't played Diablo II in single player... Who is talking about 100+ hours to reach max level, anyway? I can't check the numbers right now but if you know what you're doing, it shouldn't take that much time. I have never understood the obsession with min/maxing and endgame, especially since GD's selling point is the build variety – it's the journey, not the destination. But what do I know... ;)

[Darksurgeon]

Originally posted by DeadlyDanDaMan:

Originally posted by Darksurgeon:

I guess I have gotten spoiled on Diablo 3s quick leveling.

Yeah, you have. D3 has far less levels that you have to obtain as well. 70 as opposed to GD's 85 (soon to be 100 when the expansion drops). You seem to be forgetting that. Getting to lvl 70 in GD can be done in 20 hours. That's about the same amount of time as it takes in D3 to get to 70. Grim Dawn just has more than D3, that's all. All end game gear in Grim Dawn can be worn at lvl 75 (also soon to change in the expansion, obviously). Grim Dawn basically has breakpoint levels, just like D2 had. Max level isn't really necessary.

Lol, you're a funny guy. I like you.

[KG]

What are you doing to level? I might have taken 100 hours to get my very first character to level 85... because I made 4-5 characters during that time and leveled all of them at least a bit, plus spent time hunting for twink gear (which is incredibly annoying and not easy). My 2nd highest character was already ~75 before I hit 85 with any of them.

[Darksurgeon]

Originally posted by KG:

What are you doing to level? I might have taken 100 hours to get my very first character to level 85... because I made 4-5 characters during that time and leveled all of them at least a bit, plus spent time hunting for twink gear (which is incredibly annoying and not easy). My 2nd highest character was already ~75 before I hit 85 with any of them.

Mainly just grinding mobs over and over and over and over for reputation while watching the xp bar sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly increase.. ugh...

[KG]

Well - reputation with Cronley's and the Order/Kymon is a grind. Can't help you there: it outright sucks, especially Order/Kymon, since the rewards for those areas kinda blow until you hit Nemesis.

For experience, though - don't grind. Go do things. Make a run that involves some variety and has a chance to drop MIs you're looking for plus gives you access to troves.

If you can kill any Nemesis, hunt the areas they frequent.

Use a movement skill (get Chaos Strike from a Riftstone if nothing else) to cut out some run time and make sure you have max (135%) move speed.


Repeating the same short run over and over might be more optimal with respect to time but if you're getting bored you'll play less and be distracted more easily.

[Slimane]

The leveling in this game is already incredibly fast. I started a new character a few days ago and I'm already level 74.

The grind has always been part of these types of games. If you don't like leveling it might not be the game for you.

[Anathema]

What the hell are you doing that it takes you 100 hours to reach max level? It does not take that long.

[dongfang600]

you can use the cheat tools to just make you 85lv at the very first......

[Erik]

Someone once uploaded some saves with max level characters and no skill/ability/constellation points spent. Basically for screwing around and testing. Could no doubt still find it if you google around.

[kekkuli]

Wow i think leveling is too fast in this game. Max level takes like no time at all, about 35 hours on average for me 1-85. I know with first character it is slower, but once you get the hang of it and gain some gear..

I just do all the quests+sidequests and quickly clear the maps. Nothing special. More important thing is how well your build is optimized to do that quickly, and how well you know maps/quest locations etc.

I don't really get this d3 comparison thing, i have about 2k hours in d3 but i don't play it anymore and i don't miss anything about d3 in gd.

[Ragic]

just because youve played D3 till youre sick of it doesnt mean its not the better game.