Archer's Shield

[Du.Borrego]

IMHO I dont know how but archer's shield needs a buff.
Its amazing hard to defend a single slash and the archer may die with only 1 hit.

By the way the spear is very funny and strong, i like it.
But the max ammo of 5 spears seems low.

[Scrundle]

The small shield you are talking about perhaps offers less coverage than you think it does, being a small round shield it only covers the mid/upper-torso and part of the head when raised, it is entirely possible to land a hit from the front against a raised small shield simply because it leaves so much uncovered.

You must aim your shield towards the tip of the enemy's weapon in order to guarantee blocking it.

The larger shields as carried by the knight cover far more area.

The javelin weapons are good fun aren't they?
It's almost a different playstyle for the archer, one of close support and utility, but I have to say I am not particularly impressed with the unlocks; spending time learning the handling characteristics of your low-range javelin to be rewarded with one which gives you more range for less damage seems like a strange choice as javelin players have forsaken sheer range for utility in choosing javelin, if you wanted range then pick bow or crossbow. Just my opinion of course.

[Du.Borrego]

I agree...i unlocked the 2nd javelin and im still using the 1st one.

And javelin's must have more damage than arrows in my opinion. Just think, one big and sharp javelin inside your chest versus an arrow/bolt.

Arrows and Bolts could be more lethal at longe range, but javelins must need a "boost" at short ranges. Its an idea:

- Arrows/bolts: +x% dmg at y range (very far)
- Spears: +x% dmg at w range (close)

If spears receive this boost i agree with less ammo like 2~3 spears per stack.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Originally posted by Sir Borrego -pt-:

And javelin's must have more damage than arrows in my opinion. Just think, one big and sharp javelin inside your chest versus an arrow/bolt.

Nope.

Force = mass x acceleration.
For you to be right, a human arm would have to be capable of driving a significantly greater mass than a crossbow bolt with significantly greater force than a crossbow could produce.

A bolt fired by a windlass crossbow could impart the force of a .357 magnum round to its target at several hundred yards. Could a human arm manage this with a crossbow bolt, never mind a much heavier javelin?
No.

Anyway, javelins DO have more damage than arrows, by quite a margin:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ami8d_HZmYHsdDRzc1Byb3ItVWNXSFR1SURHN29TZnc#gid=1

Even short spears do the same damage as a bodkin arrow from the warbow.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

And that applies even to knights. For some reason, javelins in the game impart more force at close range than any bow or crossbow, but somehow lose all this force in flight.
They even penetrate full plate better than a crossbow. Yay, realism.

And you want to give them more damage at their optimal range.

[Du.Borrego]

I love you.
Anyway im doing well with Short Spear.

More speed, and decent damage.

I dont like that percentual damage at weapon stats, its confunsing to me.

[Du.Borrego]

Training a little bit more with spears i could easily kill knights and vanguards with 2 spears.
Thats nice because u need the same to kill with bows and crossbows, that are very very much harder to hit.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Originally posted by Sir Borrego -pt-:

Training a little bit more with spears i could easily kill knights and vanguards with 2 spears.
Thats nice because u need the same to kill with bows and crossbows, that are very very much harder to hit.

I don't even take two shots- just hit them once and charge in with the cudgel. They're usually surprised by cowardly archers hurtling toward them. :)

[Du.Borrego]

You're the man

[carrion]

Originally posted by Mr Eyl:

Originally posted by Sir Borrego -pt-:

Training a little bit more with spears i could easily kill knights and vanguards with 2 spears.
Thats nice because u need the same to kill with bows and crossbows, that are very very much harder to hit.

I don't even take two shots- just hit them once and charge in with the cudgel. They're usually surprised by cowardly archers hurtling toward them. :)

as little as i play archer, charging headlong into a melee with a knight is soooo much fun. You can smell their confusion. ^^

[Du.Borrego]

Lol i will try it, unfortunely i need to work atm

: ~

[Cariocekus]

Maybe increse the dmg abit if your Sprinting when you throw it.