Best Classes in Order

[Bullet1968]

Knights = This is obviously the best
Archers = Respected by all. My favourite peons
Man At Arms = Nippy Fellows with honour
Vanguards = Noob choice depthless. The sewer of Chivalry.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Messaggio originale di int | Mithron:

unless you're playing heavy agressive where you rush with oil pots.................. if you aren't using heater shield as MaA, you're playing it wrong.

Doesn't that mean whoever is playing heavy aggressive with said oil pots is 'doing it wrong'?

Messaggio originale di int | Mithron:

Archers are okay at 1vs1, but they're not as good as MaA.

Messaggio originale di int | Mithron:

archers are by far the best class and vanguards are by far the worst class in a 1vs1 scenario

Umm.... which one is it? Or do you mean in different situations?

As for pubstomping, I find that good aim with the heavy crossbow can more than make up for the RoF reduction when compared to the warbow, but I suppose that's just personal preference.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Messaggio originale di int | Mithron:

Archers are okay at 1vs1, but they're not as good as MaA. Warbow+Cudgel is just that OP.

Ah, that's where the confusion lies. I don't see it as a 1v1 duel unless both players are in melee. By that logic, even shooting at unaware players half the map away counts as 1vs1. :)

[Nequis]

Never got any problem fighting someone with the halberd,i guess you just suck and then must complain.

[Judeo-communism]

Chivalry is 3 things. 1. Public games, 2. 1vs1, 3. clan battles. Tier list for each of these:
Public games: 1. Archer, 2. Man at Arms, 3. Knight, 4. Vanguard
1vs1: 1. Man at Arms, 2. Knight, 3. Vanguard, 4. Archer. 1vs1 means literally in a duel server, both taunt each other before fighting, organized both know each other are fighting and ready to engage each other. No surprises.
Clan battles: 1. Archer, 2. Man at Arms, 3. Knight, 4. Vanguard BUT they all have good roles and are all useful in their own ways, not to mention official league/tourney rules are set to no more than 2 of each class for 5vs5s, so you can't have more than 2 archers anyway, which inheritently makes vanguards better because they don't have to worry as much about archers and have good team mates to support because vanguards are a support class. They just have to stay under cover during the "archer" phase.

Man at Arms should be using heater shields in public games/1vs1, except during king stage and dark forest when facing turtling enemies. Aggressive strategies with oil pots only work in organized clan battles, not so much in public randoms. No one here but me does organized clan battles.

You can have just as good aim with warbow as heavy crossbow. You're not doing anything but limiting your self in public games. Yes, heavy crossbow does good damage to every class but has lower ammo and less kills over time potential. It's your fault for not being as good with the warbow as you are with the heavy crossbow.

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Messaggio originale di int | Mithron:

It's your fault for not being as good with the warbow as you are with the heavy crossbow.

I said I enjoyed it more, not that I wasn't as good with it. If anything, favouring the heavy crossbow has improved my overall aim with all the other bows.

[Wildfire]

Let me say a word to defend vanguards.
They actually aren't THAT bad, except three things: 1) charge which is nearly unusable except against completely non-competent opponents, 2) stupid easymode halberd I don't like to play with and against, and 3) FORK. It's just 'pick long range weapon, run forward, use slashcombo and pray' thing that knights actually suffer as often as vanguards do. This brainless fighting style and vanguard/knight weapons benefit each other (do you remember crusaders from AoC? Here's the same thing), so new players pick vanguards or knight with two-handed sword and don't even think about using overheads/stabs/kicks/feints or moving right. Run to opponent, slash, block.
Also, archers are the bane of vanguards (just like in AoC), but 99% of pub archers are almost as terribad as zweihander slasher in the crowd of teammates, so vanguard can live a full life and even carry his team to victory.
Of course, 1vs1 MaA is much better than vanguard because of dodge (but 1vs1 knight and vanguard are pretty even IMO), and, I guess, knight with his ton of armor is better in clanwars if you need some bruteforce, but in pubgames vanguards are pretty strong.
So my tiers look like that:
Pubs: 1) Vanguard, 2) Knight, 3) MaA (except really skilled guys), 4) Archer (same)
1vs1: 1) MaA, 2-3) Vanguard/Knight, 4) Archer
And I agree with Mithron about clanwar tiers.

By the way, my weapon of choice for vanguard is bardiche, but I actually like to use war axe or dane axe as his main weapon. It turns vanguard into something like sergeant from AoC.

[Bullet1968]

For Wildfire defence of Vanuards they have been moved back upto 4th place.

[(GFHQ) Sir Cumcise of Glans]

Meh. I always play as vanguard and get bumloads of kills.

[(GFHQ) Sir Cumcise of Glans]

Also, the whole appeal of the game is the funny dimemberment and decapitation. Why on earth would I want to play as an archer, or, god forbid, spend my time poking someone to death with a stick?

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Te appeal of the game to me is the skill-based melee combat and setting, as well as the archery mechanics.
The gore is just the icing on the cake. :)

Also: cudgel + cranium = explosion.

[coastermun]

Dunno about balance stuff, but here are my 4 picks in order of most favourite to least favourite.

1) MAA
Very versitile, can take down all other classes with relative ease if you know what you are doing. Against slow people (i.e. knights/vg) you can simply walk backward to dodge their slashes or dash left/right to avoid overhead/pokes and then hit them. Also this is the best class when you are outnumbered versus knights and vgs, because you can make them TK eachother :)
2/3) Close call between vg or knight, vg for FFA because halberd is just too good, and knight for team games for the shield to defeat archers with ease.
4) Archer
This is only because I am bad at archer, I've played against people who are skilled and it's a world of difference. With proper aiming (i.e. hitting shielders in the feet) and skillful dagger-wielding, archers can be very good.

[Kozzy]

Im surprised by all the Vanguard hate to be honest, in the right hands they can be the msot deadly class imo.

[Judeo-communism]

I regularly go 50-5 in public games as vanguard. You can pubstomp with vanguard. You just pubstomp way harder with every other class if you get good with them. When you come across opponents that don't suck, you'll see how useless you are as vanguard as you get headshot immediately every few seconds.

[Funk]

Messaggio originale di gitt:

Knights = This is obviously the best
Archers = Respected by all. My favourite peons
Man At Arms = Nippy Fellows with honour
Vanguards = Noob choice depthless. The sewer of Chivalry.

This is the difference between players of Chivalry and players of M&B. You guys are actually taking him too seriously.

Round of applause for these idiots ^^

[Barthalonious Monk]

did a search, couldn't find your server.

Messaggio originale di Mr Eyl:

Messaggio originale di Barthalonious Monk:

The vanguard is the best class and can defeat anybody in a 1v1 fight.

Any class can defeat any other in a 1v1 fight.

There is no 'best'- the archer may not be able to contribute to a teamfight like vans, but a van can't take out 3 or 4 widely spaced enemy archers in a matter of seconds.

Each class has its role.

EDIT: In fact, come looking for me on the Anquer Quare duel server at some point, and we'll put your hypothesis to the test against my archer or MAA. ;)