Best Method of Countering Archers?

[robotomy]

I'm relatively new to Chivalry (Almost 20 hours, rank 14), and I am having a lot of fun learning and getting better, and I've been moving out of the low rank for some gamemodes, like Duel. However, one problem I can't really fix, or haven't found a solution for is how to deal with Archers. I've tried mixing up the direction I run while closing distance between ourselves, but when I do get in melee range, they bring out a shortsword and attack endlessely, while somehow still blocking my attacks. It's somewhat frustrating, but I mainly want to learn the best method of dealing with Archers.

[¿Albatrossing?]

Remember that all archer weapons are pretty short in reach, so it may be worthwhile to fight out of their range if you have a longer weapon. Many archers also depend on parries, almost too much so. If you get a good feint or miss into combo may be able to get past their defenses. Also, their weapons are pretty quick so if they are starting to get in your face it's okay to get your secondary weapon out if your primary is too slow.

As for when they are shooting at you a shield oftentimes really helps out. It greatly reduces(but doesn't eliminate the chance of getting hit from that side. You don't need to be blocking to block projectiles. Resting on your arm or on your back, anywhere your shield is will block projectiles. You often see newbies constantly holding their shields up, say to defend the king from snipers, yet all this does is stop your health and stamina from regenerating. A much better effort would be to keep your shield on your back and just turn around. Granted, you now can't look at the archer but besides for your feet your entire body is now defended and you can still heal.

Also, be unpredicatble. Archers look for patterms so that they can predict where to shoot you. Going serpantine won't help if you keep making equal strides. Change things up and make it hard for them to know where you will go next.

[Lu2]

Proper use of shield or unpredictable movement(knowing where archers are is realy helpfull) is very crucial.never run in straith line when archers aiming you.you are easy target for decent archer

[DeathRow]

Equip Tower Shield (it's on Knight), Train on performing perfect 360's, perform said 360 when Archer propels a projectile towards you, take care to be approximately 50% through the 360 when the projectile impacts You.
Naturally, you should be trying to Close the distance to the Archer, which would normally put you at the required angle for this manouver to work.
When Archer is in range, proceed to cut off archers head when possible. This will Ensure the Death of Archer, and will give you a Clear sign that the threat is dealt With.
If however Archer sports dagger and 35+ rank, you should rather press f10 and try to survive for 10 Seconds, considering Your playtime and Associated melee-skills. This is to rob Archer of any reward he would have gotten from exploiting Your Limited knowledge of the game.
This should help you deal With Archers until you learn more Advanced techniques that requires no Shield, like "The Sidestep" and "The Advanced Sidestep".

[Nequis]

Well Archers are the most spineless class of the game and flawed at the core simply because while everyone sports Meele weapons they use Ranged,meaning you won't ever be playing on a level field because they can actually fight you but you can't. /rant

That said the best way to counter them (the guys before me explained you well) is exploiting in fact their short/fast weapons. In meele with them it's easiest to win if you do either 2 of these things: Feint while charging,and hitting them straight in the face.
Swing close to them and backpedal,they will try to get an attack in but lack range to hit you and you move in again with a ready swing.

[Xylvion]

To counter archers you have to play archer yourself or hope that they're utter ♥♥♥♥ tier at aiming.
Zig-zagging works against noobs, while unpredictable movements are based on luck. Shields can also help somewhat, but don't think you won't get hit by projectiles all the time just because you got one.

If you get close to them the easiest way to kill them is to matrix and attack them, use your range against their range of the weapons. This works really well against javelins and knives most of the time. You just have to keep a slight distance where they think they'll hit.

[acidboi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2PVloM-VY
most archers can be dealt with easily when youre in combat range. it just requires you to block thier attacks, catch them off guard or bypass thier blocks. you should also take notice how I evade thier arrows by "throwing forward my right shoulder" so the shield on my back covers a large part of my hitbox. you can hear the arrows hit the shield if you listen closely.

[Beast of Bodmin]

Run straight towards them and anticipate when they will fire (easier to do than you might imagine) and then make a slight move to the left or right, and they usually miss. Harder to do vs. crossbow as it's harder to anticipate when crossbow will fire, but this is much more useful than trying to zigzag, plus you close the difference to the archer much faster.

Of course, if there is more than one archer firing at you this is much harder to do, although not impossible in some situations.

[The Faceless Man]

you are actually in luck. currently, archers have been severely nerfed to the point where they are laughable as a threat.

while it might not seem like it right now, after enough practice, any archer with a bow will be no threat to you. you can easily avoid arrows by making your movements erratic and keeping your shield side facing the archer. the trick is to keep track of the archer's threshold for firing. you want to add a delay to every motion until you get a feel for when the archer will fire. this works for every archer, even experts. when you start pulling this off while doing battle in melee, it becomes natural.

this won't help you as much for javelin archers. a good one will mix up melee + ranged, and you'll have to anticipate that yourself.


kinda funny how much archers really suck lately. bows (and crossbows) just don't cut it anymore.

[acidboi]

Originally posted by Solar:

you are actually in luck. currently, archers have been severely nerfed to the point where they are laughable as a threat.

while it might not seem like it right now, after enough practice, any archer with a bow will be no threat to you. you can easily avoid arrows by making your movements erratic and keeping your shield side facing the archer. the trick is to keep track of the archer's threshold for firing. you want to add a delay to every motion until you get a feel for when the archer will fire. this works for every archer, even experts. when you start pulling this off while doing battle in melee, it becomes natural.

this won't help you as much for javelin archers. a good one will mix up melee + ranged, and you'll have to anticipate that yourself.


kinda funny how much archers really suck lately. bows (and crossbows) just don't cut it anymore.

lol, what you just said is the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I have EVER heard in my life. only the warbow and light crossbow have been nerfed but both maintain about the same HtK and even the oneshots they had. the main reason I die on the battlefield is because of archers. even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arrow flinch is still here which was said to be removed.

[The Faceless Man]

Originally posted by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi:

even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arrow flinch is still here which was said to be removed.

it's not. the flinch is gone. i know this because archers shots are so easy to avoid, they often hit who i'm fighting, and it never causes flinch, even in ffa.

and the fact you don't realize that invalidates your whole post. sounds like you can't tell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from fact. archers (with bows) are weak. you're probably just spazzing over a few lucky shots you don't care enough to avoid.

[acidboi]

Originally posted by Solar:

Originally posted by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi:

even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arrow flinch is still here which was said to be removed.

it's not. the flinch is gone. i know this because archers shots are so easy to avoid, they often hit who i'm fighting, and it never causes flinch, even in ffa.

and the fact you don't realize that invalidates your whole post. sounds like you can't tell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from fact. archers (with bows) are weak. you're probably just spazzing over a few lucky shots you don't care enough to avoid.

archer flinch is still present. when you get hit by an arrow you get flinched for a small ammount of time after which the flinch will be canceled, this will cause WELL TIMED blocks to fail and it also screws up animations of oposing players if they get hit by an arrow, the animation will stagnate for a brief moment and it will give the impression the the attack is feinted/flinched while in reality it isnt. after this small flinch the weapon will return to the position that it should have been in. this is really annoying for experienced players since it seems like there is a feinted/flinched attack which is followed by an instant "second" attack (this isnt the case but it looks like it) you also say that you can avoid incomming shots while fighting enemies, I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. video or didnt happen.

[The Faceless Man]

i'd rather just let you continue to fail against archers in ignorance of what i've said.

more fun that way. :)

[acidboi]

Originally posted by Solar:

i'd rather just let you continue to fail against archers in ignorance of what i've said.

more fun that way. :)

dunno m8, dodging a shot from an archer that you dont see just seems impossible to me. I play archer sometimes and I have never seen anyone actively dodge a shot while they were fighting an enemy. I have close to 3k hours in this game so dont give me the "hue ur nub" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I think you just see missed shots as dodged shots to boost your ego, but thats just my view on the situation. :^)

[The Faceless Man]

there is this handy little score-list you can open up by pressing tab (default). tells you how many archers there are. i thought that was a little obvious.

i never claimed to dodge shots from archers i can't see, but i know the general direction shots come from. once in a while, there's a surprise shot by someone who managed to flank, but it rarely happens. if there's about 2-3 archers on the enemy team, just means you have to keep an eye out for them. it's not impossible.

your profile says 289 hours, not 3k. you're only a nub if you refuse to learn. good luck. :p

[76561198172089545]

looking at his profile, he made a secondary account just for chivalry.