New Players! Why your parry isnt working!

[Glassfan •҉]

Its become a common question asked after I dispatch a new player with an overhead -- or any attack.

"How come I cant block your attacks? I press parry but it doesn't work. Are you hacking?"

the answer is no, Im not hacking. What I am doing is dragging my attack away from your body in a lazy c motion. you parry -- but its too soon. I end up hitting you at the end of my attack when your parry is finished. Or I simply use foot work combined with the above to get around your parry.

How can I work on this? :

1) don't parry too soon. Watch where my sword is travelling. Am I arcing it away from you? If so you need to delay your parry and look where my sword tip is travelling. Is it going to hit your side, foot ? --> you need to look down and to the side and press parry to get a successful block. Is it arcing above your head? You most probably need to look up (slightly) and get ready to parry.

My first hit strikes you and you cant seem to do anything as I chain combos until your dead.

2) break the combo chain by backing up (press s) and parry the next attack. Do not try to swing through the attack --> this doesn't work.

3)Watch where I'm looking. Am i looking down? Most likely I will attempt a very fast overhead strike -- get ready to parry very quickly.

4) Use your riposte! If you can parry an attack -- immediately queue an attack of your own. (this is done by almost instantly pressing an attack after you parry). your attack will skip the windup stage and be much faster than a normal attack.

[Jargas]

of course you will encounter people who do the rediculous dancing crap that pretty much breaks the animation of a swing and becomes very difficult to tell where and when it's gonna hit as well as the backwards overhead that hits instantly

[Glassfan •҉]

These things can be countered Jargas. Takes a lot of game time to get comfortable countering those tactics you describe.

But my advice is geared for the new players -- in hope that they will stop the mindless LMB fest, and be able to block some attacks.

[Jargas]

Ya ya I know, it's high lv play and all that crap I'm just saying it looks really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid and kills the spirit and feel of the game. I'm fairly certain no medieval warriors ever flailed their upper body around like those inflatable wacky waving arm guys whilst in battle or turned around and bent over backwards to stab them with their sword. It's baiscly an exploit but it's considered top lv sword play and here to stay so not really complaining about it so much as telling any new players that look at this thread that it's a thing that exists.

[Kets]

0) parry

[XExarKunX]

Originally posted by Jargas:

Ya ya I know, it's high lv play and all that crap I'm just saying it looks really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid and kills the spirit and feel of the game. I'm fairly certain no medieval warriors ever flailed their upper body around like those inflatable wacky waving arm guys whilst in battle or turned around and bent over backwards to stab them with their sword. It's baiscly an exploit but it's considered top lv sword play and here to stay so not really complaining about it so much as telling any new players that look at this thread that it's a thing that exists.

wow yea....this turned me off of trying this out. seems stupid. regardless of the fact peopel think its "top lvl swordplay" which given how realistic the rest of the game is, this is more a exploit as stated.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Play on first person only servers.

Many of those moves are only possible in 3rd person. But once you realise how easy and predictable they are they are really easy to kill. Sometimes it's literally a case of stepping back, watching their swing miss you and stabbing them while they are still seining. They probably don't know about Combo feint to parry either being 3rd person scrubs so you can even delay your stab and still get them lol.

Rank 30-45 players will match the above playstyle. Dancers, kiters, ballernas. Dancers run around in a figure of 8, kiters turn their backs run away from you then do a 180 and stab you and ballernas will spin around a lot.

Above rank 45 most players are generally above such tactics. They don't use them and can easily dispatch anyone who does use them. They will kill you faster and with more honour. As those tactics simply don't work in high level play. They are pub stomp tactics only.

[Strandly]

Does it even matter how well you parry when the name of the game is to run around and 5 on 1 guys all day long?

My biggest complaint is the heavy crossbow. I use this thing all the time because I dunno.. it's funny sniping people. Anyway, I can't even begin to count how many times I shoot a motherfu---er and they do not die. If this was a normal bow I could understand but this stupid weapon takes 10 years to reload-- it should NOT be this terrible.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

You have something called a secondary weapon. Press 2. Shoot them once then be really agressive and stab them once. They generally die then.

Normal crossbow is a better sniper. Longer range and faster projectile speed. Best counter archer weapon. An accidental change that actually properly balanced the crossbows between each other making the standard crossbow viable. Without the extended range and speed the standard crossbow wouldn't be a viable choice at all.

Heavy crossbow reload is also just over 5 seconds long. Only one hits archers and MAA. To the torso. It would be dumb if it did that to knights.

[Glassfan •҉]

"Does it even matter how well you parry when the name of the game is to run around and 5 on 1 guys all day long?"

If you as an archer are frequently finding yourself in 5 V 1 situations... you are doing something wrong. You should never let yourself be surrounded like that. I know that it happens, but situational awareness and battlefield positioning should be your utmost priority playing the archer class.

YES! it always matters how well you parry -- no matter what class your playing. A 5 V 1 scenario is very tough to survive. To escape it, you would need to be able to skillfully maneuver yourself so that most of your 5 opponents are blocking each other from getting a hit on you. Your defensive skills would be of the utmost importance.

And if you don't know how to parry well --> then your an easy riddle to solve, a couple of attacks and your dead.

A skilled archer is no joke. Their attacks are fast, their defense is good --> and it is frustrating as hell to engage them in melee combat -- especially after they have hit me with an arrow while Im trying to reach them. Usually, I cant afford to make 1 mistake or Im dead.

[Wilhelm.]

U don't need to play in 3rd person to get rainbows/reverse strikes. When u play the enough, you'll start to be able to predict where ur enemy will be. Its all about practice.

[Pipiru Piru Piru Pipiru Pi]

"3)Watch where I'm looking."
Terrible advice sense the models don't actually turn the way you are looking nearly fast enough to be relied upon.

And someones Ping plays a huge role when to start your parry as well which is really awkward.

[Glassfan •҉]

Pipiru -- if you have better advice and can explain better than i can -- go for it --

I just want to help the new players.

** now ive also seen how many hours you've played -- which isn't many. But, if you have something to add, i'm all for it. But if your just trolling based on less than 10 hrs in game, pretty weak friend.

[¿Albatrossing?]

In team battles jumping into a group battle can often lead to being easily tked if not careful. Know your surroundings and where everyone is so that you can position yourself to strike efficiently and without harm. Just running into the middle of a fight will get yourself killed. Play smart and you'll do well, play mindlessly and back to the spawn point you go.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Originally posted by Albatrossing:

In team battles jumping into a group battle can often lead to being easily tked if not careful. Know your surroundings and where everyone is so that you can position yourself to strike efficiently and without harm. Just running into the middle of a fight will get your self killed. Play smart and you'll do well, play mindlessly and you back to the spawn point you go.

Yeah the other day before the sale I was being a sneaky archer with a dagger. There were 3 team mates vs 1 enemy and I ran in to get a stab in and got hit by all 3 of them at once lol. Maul, Polehammer and greatsword. No more me. But entirely my fault for coming in out of no where to try and kill steal.

[Strandly]

Originally posted by •҉ Glassfan:

"Does it even matter how well you parry when the name of the game is to run around and 5 on 1 guys all day long?"

If you as an archer are frequently finding yourself in 5 V 1 situations... you are doing something wrong. You should never let yourself be surrounded like that. I know that it happens, but situational awareness and battlefield positioning should be your utmost priority playing the archer class.

YES! it always matters how well you parry -- no matter what class your playing. A 5 V 1 scenario is very tough to survive. To escape it, you would need to be able to skillfully maneuver yourself so that most of your 5 opponents are blocking each other from getting a hit on you. Your defensive skills would be of the utmost importance.

And if you don't know how to parry well --> then your an easy riddle to solve, a couple of attacks and your dead.

A skilled archer is no joke. Their attacks are fast, their defense is good --> and it is frustrating as hell to engage them in melee combat -- especially after they have hit me with an arrow while Im trying to reach them. Usually, I cant afford to make 1 mistake or Im dead.

That was sarcasm but OK. No, I don't mean I am getting 5 vs 1'ed... usually, I mean that's the sum of strategy in this game. =/

I think I do pretty decent job of parrying actually, but I absolutely cannot stand how I can parry an attack and then attack back and have my opponent parry MY attack. If I block their attack and I have a faster weapon I should get a free hit imo. That's a whole other animal though which I am about to go post about in whatever the whine thread is in this forum. :p