A very beautiful game, but...

[Добродел]

Just my opinion, firstly, the game is very visually beautiful, and for this reason people expect too much from it, especially fans of such games.
But apart from the visual, nothing attracts in this game. I'll explain:
Progression on map borring.
All you can do is up not many levels to the hero , with boring characteristics, improve the city 2 times and make 1 extension.
The characteristics are unusual, but uninteresting, it is difficult to calculate incoming or outgoing damage.
Regular units cannot be upgraded... You don't want to keep the unit, it's just a consumable that can be hired anywhere at any time.
mules are artifacts...
and etc...
I understand EA bugs ant other, but All the mechanics in the game are unusual, but in my opinion, bad or very bad.
If you want to make an unusual game, fine. But a huge number of such games are quickly forgotten.
There are other ways, one of them, for example: Take good mechanics from other games and great visual from this game and u can do great 4x game that people will play for decades. HOMM and similar for map. Mechabellum and other not bad autobattlers for battle.
I will not refund and will play this game, but I love 4x the good and even the bad.
I will hope that someday I will see such a visual in a good 4x strategy.

Maybe I'm wrong somewhere, but this is my opinion, maybe someone will be interested

And now I give a positive rating only for visual and art.
Good luck to the developers, it's a very beautiful game...

[Natas]

I agree with you, there no town progression, units dont gain veterancy or exp. The map exploration is very basic.

[LeftPaw]

Originally posted by BoBo:

I agree with you, there no town progression, units dont gain veterancy or exp. The map exploration is very basic.

I got this from the demo. The game is very striking and pulls you to it like a magnet, but when you play it there is nothing there, it's a empty shell.

[Mr Bun]

I'd love if units gained xp and you kept them between chapters. I feel somewhat cheated when I amass an army only to be back to square 1 in the following chapter apart from the hero levels.

[Chrenergros]

Originally posted by Добродел:

Just my opinion, firstly, the game is very visually beautiful, and for this reason people expect too much from it, especially fans of such games.
But apart from the visual, nothing attracts in this game. I'll explain:
Progression on map borring.
All you can do is up not many levels to the hero , with boring characteristics, improve the city 2 times and make 1 extension.
The characteristics are unusual, but uninteresting, it is difficult to calculate incoming or outgoing damage.
Regular units cannot be upgraded... You don't want to keep the unit, it's just a consumable that can be hired anywhere at any time.
mules are artifacts...
and etc...
I understand EA bugs ant other, but All the mechanics in the game are unusual, but in my opinion, bad or very bad.
If you want to make an unusual game, fine. But a huge number of such games are quickly forgotten.
There are other ways, one of them, for example: Take good mechanics from other games and great visual from this game and u can do great 4x game that people will play for decades. HOMM and similar for map. Mechabellum and other not bad autobattlers for battle.
I will not refund and will play this game, but I love 4x the good and even the bad.
I will hope that someday I will see such a visual in a good 4x strategy.

Maybe I'm wrong somewhere, but this is my opinion, maybe someone will be interested

And now I give a positive rating only for visual and art.
Good luck to the developers, it's a very beautiful game...

You can upgrade units. In the first map of the campaign, I've unlocked a card that upgrade a lance unit to a knight unit (i can't remember their names, sorry) and the upgraded unit was really strong. So I'm sure that there are many other cards that let you upgrade some units.

Heroes have a cap level in campaign where first mission is capped at lvl3. I'm actually doing the second mission and I'm on the way to the lvl4. Not sure about skirmish. I suggest you to play the game and explore it a little bit, maybe play some skirmish. I'm finishing the campaign first that is a good tutorial too.

[Добродел]

Originally posted by Chrenergros:

Originally posted by Добродел:

Just my opinion, firstly, the game is very visually beautiful, and for this reason people expect too much from it, especially fans of such games.
But apart from the visual, nothing attracts in this game. I'll explain:
Progression on map borring.
All you can do is up not many levels to the hero , with boring characteristics, improve the city 2 times and make 1 extension.
The characteristics are unusual, but uninteresting, it is difficult to calculate incoming or outgoing damage.
Regular units cannot be upgraded... You don't want to keep the unit, it's just a consumable that can be hired anywhere at any time.
mules are artifacts...
and etc...
I understand EA bugs ant other, but All the mechanics in the game are unusual, but in my opinion, bad or very bad.
If you want to make an unusual game, fine. But a huge number of such games are quickly forgotten.
There are other ways, one of them, for example: Take good mechanics from other games and great visual from this game and u can do great 4x game that people will play for decades. HOMM and similar for map. Mechabellum and other not bad autobattlers for battle.
I will not refund and will play this game, but I love 4x the good and even the bad.
I will hope that someday I will see such a visual in a good 4x strategy.

Maybe I'm wrong somewhere, but this is my opinion, maybe someone will be interested

And now I give a positive rating only for visual and art.
Good luck to the developers, it's a very beautiful game...

You can upgrade units. In the first map of the campaign, I've unlocked a card that upgrade a lance unit to a knight unit (i can't remember their names, sorry) and the upgraded unit was really strong. So I'm sure that there are many other cards that let you upgrade some units.

Heroes have a cap level in campaign where first mission is capped at lvl3. I'm actually doing the second mission and I'm on the way to the lvl4. Not sure about skirmish. I suggest you to play the game and explore it a little bit, maybe play some skirmish. I'm finishing the campaign first that is a good tutorial too.

Is buying two cards for a unit instead of one an upgrade?
If you try to read the manual, it will say lvl cap 10. 10 Boring not intresting lvlup
Unrealistic management of units, castles, heroes, economy, full of upgrades, enjoy

[Chrenergros]

Every single game has a lvl cap, i'm not understanding your point, and not all games have 50+ levels. For me, having the choice to upgrade a unit with a card or not is an effective upgrade. You spend a card because this game is made around this. You use cards to upgrade city or level up heroes too so again, I'm not understanding your point.

[Bearsuit]

Level 10 for heroes in a 4X is pretty damn normal lol

[Добродел]

Originally posted by Chrenergros:

Every single game has a lvl cap, i'm not understanding your point, and not all games have 50+ levels. For me, having the choice to upgrade a unit with a card or not is an effective upgrade. You spend a card because this game is made around this. You use cards to upgrade city or level up heroes too so again, I'm not understanding your point.

By upgrade, of course, we mean the tags and genres that are in the description for the game, and not just different units. A 4x rpg upgrade is like you saved some kind of unit, gained experience and the opportunity for further improvement.
just imagine all any known good games, with 10 lvl on the hero, 1 building in the castle and 3 useless levels in the city, for example homm, aow, total war warhammer and etc,also on an empty map like in this game, these games would have died at birth.
Of course, you can love, at least 2 levels of leveling a hero, and putting one card on top of another, instead of two different cards. Yes, I agree with you there are even more trash games, but I don't understand what you don't understand in my point of view, I think it is quite understandable to people who like interesting games.
In any case, if you like to play, enjoy it, I wrote in fact what I don't like about the game and what I like, you can attract anything, for example, a driving simulator where there are no levels at all, but this game will not become more interesting for other people.
When you read the description: "kingdom management ..." and you see 1 annex in the castle and 3 useless lvl, it becomes sad ... but sad because the game looks beautiful, change the graphics here to pixels and not 1 person will not play it

[Добродел]

Originally posted by Bearsuit:

Level 10 for heroes in a 4X is pretty damn normal lol

10 levels that are interesting to get, and besides that other improvements, yes it would be nice for an average game

[Doraver]

So many words just to say that it's not your game. Yes, strategy management is quite casual, so what? Not every game requires a PHD to play it. There are enough games so anyone can find what they like

You played the demo, you din't like it. Others played the demo, liked it and bought it. Why can't you accept this fact and move on? You even said it yourself, but still continue typing

And most stupid of all is that all your "negative" points about the game are not even negative, but just different to your liking. You can criticize every game like that, saying it's different from some other game you like

Originally posted by Добродел:

change the graphics here to pixels and not 1 person will not play it

And jesus, what even is that? What's wrong with pixel graphics? Why instead of just saying graphics are good you just have to be toxic about something else at the same time?
Not to mention it's just a brainless take, because pixel art can be absolutely stunning, take Songs of Conquest for example

[Chrenergros]

Originally posted by Doraver:

So many words just to say that it's not your game. Yes, strategy management is quite casual, so what? Not every game requires a PHD to play it. There are enough games so anyone can find what they like

You played the demo, you din't like it. Others played the demo, liked it and bought it. Why can't you accept this fact and move on? You even said it yourself, but still continue typing

And most stupid of all is that all your "negative" points about the game are not even negative, but just different to your liking. You can criticize every game like that, saying it's different from some other game you like

Originally posted by Добродел:

change the graphics here to pixels and not 1 person will not play it

And jesus, what even is that? What's wrong with pixel graphics? Why instead of just saying graphics are good you just have to be toxic about something else at the same time?
Not to mention it's just a brainless take, because pixel art can be absolutely stunning, take Songs of Conquest for example

Wanted to say that, Songs of conquest is a really beautiful game with his pixel art style.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Doraver:

Originally posted by Добродел:

change the graphics here to pixels and not 1 person will not play it

And jesus, what even is that? What's wrong with pixel graphics? Why instead of just saying graphics are good you just have to be toxic about something else at the same time?
Not to mention it's just a brainless take, because pixel art can be absolutely stunning, take Songs of Conquest for example

If you have difficulty understanding (which is ironic considering you just called him brainless), he says that gameplay is not good enough to stand on its own. He says that graphic is the only thing game has going for it.

[Doraver]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Doraver:

And jesus, what even is that? What's wrong with pixel graphics? Why instead of just saying graphics are good you just have to be toxic about something else at the same time?
Not to mention it's just a brainless take, because pixel art can be absolutely stunning, take Songs of Conquest for example

If you have difficulty understanding (which is ironic considering you just called him brainless), he says that gameplay is not good enough to stand on its own. He says that graphic is the only thing game has going for it.

Nope, you are who didn't understand my take. This last point wasn't about either game is good or bad. Wasn't even about game at all. I
It was about him being an a-hole to other games with pixel graphics. Which made no sense in this context, since it was not an issue here. He just had to bring it up out of nowhere, because (I guess?) he doesn't like pixel graphics?

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Doraver:

Originally posted by Butcher:

If you have difficulty understanding (which is ironic considering you just called him brainless), he says that gameplay is not good enough to stand on its own. He says that graphic is the only thing game has going for it.

Nope, you are who didn't understand my take. This last point wasn't about either game is good or bad. Wasn't even about game at all. I
It was about him being an a-hole to other games with pixel graphics. Which made no sense in this context, since it was not an issue here. He just had to bring it up out of nowhere, because (I guess?) he doesn't like pixel graphics?

Oh, let me explain further then. While games with good graphics and crap gameplay may attract people purely because of graphics, while games with good gameplay and crap graphics may attract people purely because of gameplay - the game lacking both has nothing which could attract people.

You just cling to his words. I know games with good pixel graphics, I'm sure OP does too. But in this context its clear he uses this as euphemism for crap graphics.

[Doraver]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Oh, let me explain further then. While games with good graphics and crap gameplay may attract people purely because of graphics, while games with good gameplay and crap graphics may attract people purely because of gameplay - the game lacking both has nothing which could attract people.

You just cling to his words. I know games with good pixel graphics, I'm sure OP does too. But in this context its clear he uses this as euphemism for crap graphics.

You are absolutely right. But it wasn't an issue in question. This game is not "bad", at least I see no real issues there, neither this person provides single one. This game has its own take on town/army management and its own take on combat. Nothing is "bad" about it. It's just different to the games he/you played/liked

Would I like to change something to my own preference? Sure.
I would love heroes have more impact, maybe have ore cards to play. Card upgrades also feel pretty weak most of the time (for example just reducing construction cost from 80 to 75 is very boring and has very little impact)
I would like as well to have more control on the battlefield For example how flying units can fly, I wish I could control different units to fly to different places, instead of all together.
Maybe different option in unit production in different towns. I really want caravans too
Some other stuff as well.

But all and all it's not bad, it's just different to my own taste. There are thousands of games I don't like at all which are considered amazing by others

I don't understand why are you defending a person who just comes and spills negativity just because it's not the game he expected.
If you think he is being constructive here by voicing his feedback, you are wrong, because he asks for changes that are too fundamental. He was a completely different game with the same graphics

And of course I cling to his words, I didn't like how full of ♥♥♥♥ he sounds spouting nonsence about pixel graphics. I was pissed and I'm not sorry