Question about Heretic run

[Nightshade878]

So in a Heretic run can you devote yourself to a specific member of the Ruinous Powers, or is it just general Chaos Undivided?

[Pierogolepca]

It's Undivided, with all 4 getting some content here and there (some more than others).

[Revan619]

You follow one chaos god and it is explained very early on which. The whole plot is based around it

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Pierogolepca:

It's Undivided, with all 4 getting some content here and there (some more than others).

This. Heretic is not devoted to a single Chaos God. But instead "borrows" the powers of multiple. Nurgle being one of note.

[Nightshade878]

Originally posted by Pierogolepca:

It's Undivided, with all 4 getting some content here and there (some more than others).

Darn. Oh well. Thanks for the info!

[Revan619]

Im not sure why people are saying undivided. You dedicate yourself to a very specific one in the prologue making a pact, speaking to his minions and the entire heretic run is dedicated to a ritual for the same God. You replace kunrad in their plans. act 3 when you communicate with certain daemons of that God to cause trouble. Then if you get the right rank that God gives you a weapon.

Being purposely vague cause cba to use spoiler tag on mobile

Wondering if because word bearers are undivided? But the whole plot focuses around 1 specific god that gives you tasks. The boss of act one even announces which God they are aligned to.

[Schlumpsha]

That's the thing: you don't dedicate yourself to one specific god. You can go a 'semi dedicated' route way later down the plot. Or just not do it at all. Closest would probably be a certain side mission on a far flung hunting planet. But even that one is more on the lipservice side of things. We do get a nice ending slide for it tho. So I give you that.

Biggest point against the Rogue Trader following specific Chaos Gods is that we can convert NPC's to worship Ruinous Powers other than the one you think of. That's not done with just persuasion. But by invoking that other god's powers. An act only the path of Chaos Undivided does. Else the conversion would have turned out rather differently.

All in all a heretic Rogue Trader is an allrounder rather than a specialist when it comes to Chaos.

[Nightshade878]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Im not sure why people are saying undivided. You dedicate yourself to a very specific one in the prologue making a pact, speaking to his minions and the entire heretic run is dedicated to a ritual for the same God. You replace kunrad in their plans. act 3 when you communicate with certain daemons of that God to cause trouble. Then if you get the right rank that God gives you a weapon.

Being purposely vague cause cba to use spoiler tag on mobile

Wondering if because word bearers are undivided? But the whole plot focuses around 1 specific god that gives you tasks. The boss of act one even announces which God they are aligned to.

If it's not Tzeentch then they pulled a rug pull worthy of the changer of ways himself

[Revan619]

Originally posted by Nightshade878:

Originally posted by Revan619:

Im not sure why people are saying undivided. You dedicate yourself to a very specific one in the prologue making a pact, speaking to his minions and the entire heretic run is dedicated to a ritual for the same God. You replace kunrad in their plans. act 3 when you communicate with certain daemons of that God to cause trouble. Then if you get the right rank that God gives you a weapon.

Being purposely vague cause cba to use spoiler tag on mobile

Wondering if because word bearers are undivided? But the whole plot focuses around 1 specific god that gives you tasks. The boss of act one even announces which God they are aligned to.

If it's not Tzeentch then they pulled a rug pull worthy of the changer of ways himself

yeah you mess up a tzeench plot. Can align yourself with a tzeench emissary in the prologue. You then try to take a spot in the final dawn plan for tzeench but the other heretics are like "nu-uh". You are told to get the shards by the emissary for the final dawn. The boss of act 1 aurora introduces himself as a herald of change.

A pink horror instructs you to get up to some mischief in commoragh and you let the warp in. The drukhari that stole the sun seemed to know you are working for tzeench.

You then do a ritual to summon a bringer of change.

There is a cult of nurgle you find in the dlc. You can find a slaneesh aligned faction in act 2 and you can murder for khorn with another character in act 4. But these are one offs with no real interaction.

I havnt started act 5 yet but unless there is suddenly some big reveal for you to be undivided, I'm pretty sure you are working for tzeench.

[Nightshade878]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Originally posted by Nightshade878:

If it's not Tzeentch then they pulled a rug pull worthy of the changer of ways himself

yeah you mess up a tzeench plot. Can align yourself with a tzeench emissary in the prologue. You then try to take a spot in the final dawn plan for tzeench but the other heretics are like "nu-uh". You are told to get the shards by the emissary for the final dawn. The boss of act 1 aurora introduces himself as a herald of change.

A pink horror instructs you to get up to some mischief in commoragh and you let the warp in. The drukhari that stole the sun seemed to know you are working for tzeench.

You then do a ritual to summon a bringer of change.

There is a cult of nurgle you find in the dlc. You can find a slaneesh aligned faction in act 2 and you can murder for khorn with another character in act 4. But these are one offs with no real interaction.

I havnt started act 5 yet but unless there is suddenly some big reveal for you to be undivided, I'm pretty sure you are working for tzeench.

Iconoclast go "I may not agree with Dogmatics much of ever, but when it comes to Chaos, pass me the Flamer"

[Pierogolepca]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Im not sure why people are saying undivided. You dedicate yourself to a very specific one in the prologue making a pact, speaking to his minions and the entire heretic run is dedicated to a ritual for the same God. You replace kunrad in their plans. act 3 when you communicate with certain daemons of that God to cause trouble. Then if you get the right rank that God gives you a weapon.

Being purposely vague cause cba to use spoiler tag on mobile

Wondering if because word bearers are undivided? But the whole plot focuses around 1 specific god that gives you tasks. The boss of act one even announces which God they are aligned to.

Spoilers ahead:

You can invoke Nurgle's power to corrupt a NPC as well as offer a certain trinket to Slaanesh in exchange for power. And ye, there's also a small Khorne subplot (maybe it's larger with the DLC, haven't played that yet). All these sound like an agent of Undivided to me, but yeah, Tzeentch's guys have the most content by far.

One thing to note is you don't really follow Tzeentch's commands, only the bird trapped in the shards, as well as its followers/sect. That guy is some lesser Lord of Change if I remember correctly.

[☭KiLLiNJoke-AWEEE!!!]

Spoilers ahead

I have managed to get demon prince ascension without torturin any innocent soul ( whackin imperial fanatics here and there but no harmless civilians), saved population of Rykad, killed Slaaneshite cult on Janus, convinced Calligos to spare Aeldari and managed to get peaceful ending with them. The two moments im gonna change when Lex Imperialis comes out is sendin clean food from Janus instead of corrupted one (after Chorda i dont need another version of crazed lunatics disrupting my main trade hub ) and maybe not sacrificing crew members deceived by genestealers ( in my defense i was totally pissed because i went over my head tryin to improve their life). Yes thru whole story we are guided by Tzeench but it doesnt mean we are his servants - it never mentioned anywhere, we ask for help to Ruinous Powers and can present our ship and entire planets to Nurgle and Slaanesh and corrupt Calligos for Khorne. I never did tho - i killed Vinchenza,helped Calligos, killed Demon of Change and Word Bearer was just smart enough not to get in my way. So yeah, dont know about your campaign, but mine is Undivided with heavy align to Dark Mechanicum - Pasqal best bud

[Pierogolepca]

How is that even possible without cheating in alignment points?

[Revan619]

Saved rykad. I wiped out slaanesh on Janus. Cleared out the nurgle guys in the dlc. Saved the aeldari from winterscale in act 4. Still got heretic 5 and 2 in the others by footfall act 4.

1.3 rebalanced alignment gain.

I've got 530 heretic and 100+ dogmatic and almost 100 iconclast

[☭KiLLiNJoke-AWEEE!!!]

510 heretical, 146 iconoclast and 69 ( im not jokin x-(D) imperial - thanks to this thread noticed couple of other moments im gonna change while replayin. Also, wish our companions had specific moments and endings for different alignments. Teeth-destroyingly sweet courtesy romance with Cassia - meanwhile my ship looks like butchery, same with Jae basically stayin with her weird version of corpse-worship and of course no matter what no defilement of smug space elves laws and outlaw elf wife for heretic run

[Pierogolepca]

Hmm, I see. Guess it's due to the patch rebalancing. Previously you had to pretty much go all in with one alighnment to reach rank 5, that's what threw me off.