Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Hex: Onii-Chan 24. dec. 2023 kl. 2:35
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Did someone explain to Owlcat what Aeldari are?
Okay, so, it really feels like they looked at a few memes and then decided "Good enough, we got the jist". Yrliet is by FAR the worst written Aeldari I have ever witnessed in any of the games, books or animation. The other Asuryani aren't much better, but she just snipes the cherry off the cake.

Aeldari are supposed to be insanely persuasive. As in - to the point where every character warns you not to trust their honeyed words. Because even the most battle-hardened Banshee is able to play the role of a needy, horny space-elf that "was ostracized for dreaming of having a hunk of raw, human power taking care of... all of her needs [blushes and turns away full of shame], if only the Rogue Trade didn't see her as an ugly, abominable Xenos [looks back with big deer eyes full of hope]"

They have literally spent millions of years perfecting the craft of diplomacy, persuasion and seduction. Yes, she would think the same thing Yrliet does, but nobody would see through her facade.

Yrliet? "Dumb Mon'keigh, why Mon'keigh dumb? Omg, can Mon'keigh do anything right? Liek, omg, Mon'keigh, stop letting your feelings control you, Mon'keigh so bad at everything, omg" - B!tch, you're supposed to be an infiltrator and you need my help, but every word coming out of your mouth makes me want to jettison you and use your spirit stone as an ornamental butt plug, pipe the ♥♥♥♥ down.

Not only that - she has no grace or elegance in her behaviour. It's rash, emotional and direct. No subterfuge (aside from the hamfisting after Chapter 2), no double-meanings, no nothing. It's a more ♥♥♥♥♥ Sororitas that has 0 respect and constantly insults everything and everyone.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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GrandMajora 3. jan. 2024 kl. 18:41 
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Unfortunately he kept bouncing between "I am aware of how I can barely even be compared to a mundane human" and "Wait why can't mundane humans see the universe the way I do".

Apparently, observing humanity since before we mastered fire doesn't mean one actually learns the first thing about human nature.

Well, he was made from the fused souls of a bunch of ancient Psykers, so he's not exactly right in the head to begin with.
corisai 3. jan. 2024 kl. 18:44 
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Well, he was made from the fused souls of a bunch of ancient Psykers, so he's not exactly right in the head to begin with.
AFAIK that was changed and now Emperor just an ordinary Marry Sue - born with extreme talent (tm).
SolusiRadikal 3. jan. 2024 kl. 18:46 
What i see in this game is Eldar being Eldar, yet the Drukhari is somewhat too tame (Haemonculi is still a jerk and stupidly strong so it's an exception)
GrandMajora 3. jan. 2024 kl. 19:21 
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AFAIK that was changed and now Emperor just an ordinary Marry Sue - born with extreme talent (tm).

I don't like the sound of that. The Emperor is a being from the dawn of humanity's existence. Long, long, long before they had access to technology that would allow them to extend one's lifespan by several millennia.

How can he still be alive right now, if he was just a man?
REhorror 4. jan. 2024 kl. 1:00 
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AFAIK that was changed and now Emperor just an ordinary Marry Sue - born with extreme talent (tm).

I don't like the sound of that. The Emperor is a being from the dawn of humanity's existence. Long, long, long before they had access to technology that would allow them to extend one's lifespan by several millennia.

How can he still be alive right now, if he was just a man?
Despite the grimdarkness of the setting, medical tech of the setting is very, very good.

With augmetics and de-aging techology, you can have normal human living up to 500 years (and probably above).

Hell, I think one of the Space Wolf Dreadnought is over 10.000 years old, he's not active in battle and need to be woken up from times to times tho.
Pixie1001 4. jan. 2024 kl. 7:11 
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I don't like the sound of that. The Emperor is a being from the dawn of humanity's existence. Long, long, long before they had access to technology that would allow them to extend one's lifespan by several millennia.

How can he still be alive right now, if he was just a man?
Despite the grimdarkness of the setting, medical tech of the setting is very, very good.

With augmetics and de-aging techology, you can have normal human living up to 500 years (and probably above).

Hell, I think one of the Space Wolf Dreadnought is over 10.000 years old, he's not active in battle and need to be woken up from times to times tho.

I'm not sure if they retconned the shaman thing or not - if so this is my first time hearing about it - but the perpetuals lore is still very much a thing, with new immortal perpetual characters getting announced even up till pretty recently.

So at the very least, the Emperor is confirmed to be a perpetual, which explains why he never ages - it has nothing to do with medical technology (although he is obviously on life support).
REhorror 4. jan. 2024 kl. 7:46 
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Oprindeligt skrevet af REhorror:
Despite the grimdarkness of the setting, medical tech of the setting is very, very good.

With augmetics and de-aging techology, you can have normal human living up to 500 years (and probably above).

Hell, I think one of the Space Wolf Dreadnought is over 10.000 years old, he's not active in battle and need to be woken up from times to times tho.

I'm not sure if they retconned the shaman thing or not - if so this is my first time hearing about it - but the perpetuals lore is still very much a thing, with new immortal perpetual characters getting announced even up till pretty recently.

So at the very least, the Emperor is confirmed to be a perpetual, which explains why he never ages - it has nothing to do with medical technology (although he is obviously on life support).
Perpetual is something they add later, but even without it, just by SCIENCE along, humanity can live very, very long in Warhammer 40K.
GrandMajora 4. jan. 2024 kl. 10:36 
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I'm not sure if they retconned the shaman thing or not - if so this is my first time hearing about it - but the perpetuals lore is still very much a thing, with new immortal perpetual characters getting announced even up till pretty recently.

So at the very least, the Emperor is confirmed to be a perpetual, which explains why he never ages - it has nothing to do with medical technology (although he is obviously on life support).

Oh, that's right. I forgot he was a perpetual.

Shame that respawn power only kicks in after they die, because restoring the Emperor is as simple as just disconnecting him from his life support system.

But then you'd have daemons pouring out of the golden throne.
i_kill_pikachus 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:23 
Perpetuals aren't canon, they're a fanfiction bit of baloney one or two authors keep trying to force and everyone else keeps ignoring that was done for HH just because they felt they had to do SOMETHING for HH.

The Emperor is a gestalt psychic creation.
GrandMajora 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:28 
Oprindeligt skrevet af i_kill_pikachus:
Perpetuals aren't canon, they're a fanfiction bit of baloney one or two authors keep trying to force and everyone else keeps ignoring that was done for HH just because they felt they had to do SOMETHING for HH.

The Emperor is a gestalt psychic creation.

So Vulkan is dead?
i_kill_pikachus 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:30 
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Oprindeligt skrevet af i_kill_pikachus:
Perpetuals aren't canon, they're a fanfiction bit of baloney one or two authors keep trying to force and everyone else keeps ignoring that was done for HH just because they felt they had to do SOMETHING for HH.

The Emperor is a gestalt psychic creation.

So Vulkan is dead?

Possibly. He wandered off.
corisai 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:34 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GrandMajora:
So Vulkan is dead?
He either is dead or spend 10k in stip-bar. I would prefer the former :)
Daliena 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:44 
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Oprindeligt skrevet af i_kill_pikachus:
Perpetuals aren't canon, they're a fanfiction bit of baloney one or two authors keep trying to force and everyone else keeps ignoring that was done for HH just because they felt they had to do SOMETHING for HH.

The Emperor is a gestalt psychic creation.

So Vulkan is dead?

VULKAN LIVES! stomp stomp
XartaX 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:52 
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So Vulkan is dead?

Possibly. He wandered off.
He went to get milk
L3wt 4. jan. 2024 kl. 13:53 
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use your spirit stone as an ornamental butt plug

Yrliet: :winter2019angrybulb:
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