ok what is going on with Veil Degeneration?

[rman88]

Why are psykers summoning demons on their First Cast? mind you i get it. Don't use to many powers of the warp or bad thing happens. Old brain go boom and a demon pops out of it.

But why is this happening at 5 veil degeneration? Sure i get it you got a little bar their. has that big picture of a demon and clearly a Do not go over thing. But why am i summoning demons at 1 point? And mind you this is not a fun mechanic to use. As sure i get it in the table top game. 1 bad roll on your psychic test and bam you just lost a unit.

But why even have this mechanic when 99% of the time you will be summoning a demon every combat phase. Why even use psykers then? when it dose not matter how much you use psychic powers. They always just either die and summon a demon or just summon a demon.

At this point i might as well replace them with anything else. As not like they are Mages. Your not going to use them to heal your characters. So what is the point?

[Schlumpsha]

Idira is an Unsanctioned Psyker and has a 1/20 chance of randomly summoning something out of the Warp. Cassia or a Rogue Trader Sanctioned Psyker don't have this drawback.

Haven't tried it, but the Psychic Awakening talent should theoretically also add the drawback of Unsanctioned Psykers.

[titanopteryx]

If you're using the unsanctioned psyker party companion, being unsanctioned gives every power she uses a 5% chance to trigger some negative effect.

[rman88]

so in other words. They made a useless companion. as why in gods name would you ever want to use her. When she can actively screw yourself over?

Good job devs.

[jdpvagabond]

Escrito originalmente por rman88:

so in other words. They made a useless companion. as why in gods name would you ever want to use her. When she can actively screw yourself over?

Good job devs.

I think my eyeballs nearly rolled out of my skull. A 5% chance to *potentially* have an adverse affect when any individual is capable of accidentally harming an ally if not properly used is not 'useless.'

[Schlumpsha]

Useless? Far from it. Unpredictable? You bet!

[titanopteryx]

Escrito originalmente por rman88:

so in other words. They made a useless companion. as why in gods name would you ever want to use her. When she can actively screw yourself over?

Good job devs.

I don't know how far in the story you are but early on you get another psycher companion who's sanctioned. the inquisitor

[RavenHeresy]

Don't know if that's what you are experiencing here, but there's also a few fights, namely those against minions of Tzeentch where wrap mishaps are automatic and extra brutal. I supposed this is explained by Tzeentch being the chaos god of magic and messing you up if you dare use it against him. Mind you, none of that is canon to 40k psycher behavior/limitation, but that's how it is in this game.

[rman88]

Dude i am just talking normal combat. Not when the warp is going crazy. and mind you compared to the navigator who has the most useful abuilties in the game. aka the Giant Aoe make your enemies kill each other button. like what dose she have that makes herself worth having the chance of Dying instantly when using her abuilties.

Worst part about this is. She is actual an intresting character that i wanted her to be in my party. But when she has 5 percent every single abuility to screw herself. Its like what is the point?

[iFrame]

Idira is not useless. Imo she is arguable the strongest companion, much more than Yrliet or Argenta. She's a boss killer, literally 2-3 shot bosses. I think its fair to balance out her overpowered capabilities with the risk of Daemon breaching out the warp.

Besides, she can 2-3 shot those Daemons too, Bloodletters, Daemonettes, you name it.

Theres only 1 thing thats really, really bad about Idira. And that is one of the Perils of the Warp will cause her to instantly die. Thats the only bad outcome.

[Schlumpsha]

Just see it as free EXP farming.

[rman88]

you do realize a blood letter has over 120 hp right? also don't matter when she Dies instantly. after summoning a demon. and considering that blood letter pinned her and another character in the crossairs of a sniper that i can't get in range of. letting them both wail on them while i waste medkits to keep them alive.

I would argue its not really worth it. Considering her lighting attack sucks and her buffs can get yourself killed. I rather take anyone else...

[Mildly Nuclear]

That's how Psykers work. Unsanctioned Psykers doubly so. If anything, good job for the game having more or less lore accurate psykers.

[rman88]

Ya, lore accuracy vs good gameplay is an argument. I rather take good game play. As why bother with her then? What dose he actual get that's worth it? Nothing as far as i can tell. Her powers kinda suck.

Sure she has alot of good Buff spells. But why use them when they just summon demons or instant kill her? Leaving you 1 person down. What is the point?

[Alt]

Escrito originalmente por rman88:

so in other words. They made a useless companion. as why in gods name would you ever want to use her. When she can actively screw yourself over?

Good job devs.

Because playing the game with veil degradation is a valid thing to do? You can make a team that focuses on psykers and dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about veil.
3 of her specific talents buff her if you have more than 10/15 veil degradation. She is essentially a wild mage from dnd. She is powerfull, but at the cost of random things happening. Those things could be small, or insane stuff like summoning bloodletters. I find this part is fun and not game breaking at all. Even on unfair. I just roll with it and kill every demon she summons. But when she dont, oh god Emperor she is the most powerful psyker on my team.

[Angry Obnoxious Goose]

Escrito originalmente por rman88:

Dude i am just talking normal combat. Not when the warp is going crazy. and mind you compared to the navigator who has the most useful abuilties in the game. aka the Giant Aoe make your enemies kill each other button. like what dose she have that makes herself worth having the chance of Dying instantly when using her abuilties.

Worst part about this is. She is actual an intresting character that i wanted her to be in my party. But when she has 5 percent every single abuility to screw herself. Its like what is the point?

firstly, she allows you to sometimes NOT get ambushed when attacked and allowed to reposition.
Secondly, being unsanctioned grants access to special talents.
Thirdly, she has 1 Psy Rating more than Sanctioned Psykers of the same level.

And it's a chance that Psychic Phenomena happens, not that it's an auto Perils of the Warp. So far I've experienced it ONCE that a Plague Bearer was summoned and that was cuz I didn't keep a watch on the VD value which had gone over 10.