Is there any lore-friendly justification for dragging Cassia around?

[Nox Eterna]

Like honestly, a navigator is a priceless resource that is absolutely vital and is VERY hard to replace in an isolated fringe sector. There is a reason navigators aren't employed in ANY of the Imperial fighting forces combat units despite their formidable individual powers.

As a rational rogue trader, how exactly can you justify dragging her all over the place where a stray lasbolt can get your whole ship stuck in a system until a replacement navigator could be found - or forever, if we are talking about a star system without any imperial presence in it.

I am really liking the way owlcat implemented WH40k setting so far, but this particular bit makes me cringe a little.

[Esbon]

She gets insane dodge im not sweating.

[PK_Thunder]

The justification is that the Rogue Trader book has it as a playable class.

[jonoliveira12]

You could play a Navigator character on regular missions in the RT TT RPG, so it is basically Lore accurate than Navigators sometimes leave the ships to go on missions, if they work for Rogue Traders.

[titanopteryx]

When our characters die in a fight they get back up afterward. When they get seriously injured, they get better immediately upon entering the ship. The justification is she's immortal so why not?

[Nox Eterna]

Okay, didn't know that. It still doesn't make a whole load of sense to me due to the aforementioned reasons, but I won't argue against TT rulesets.

[Shadow of Anthares]

Well, navigators are not slaves or mindless tools.
Our lovely kitten Cassia is a member of a fakking Great House of the fakkin Navis Nobilite :)

Thus - it's not the question of dragging her around.
The real question is - who will be scrubbing the floor from the pinky/red goo remaining of someone stupid enough to try and forbid Navigator from going ashore being in a rank less than inquisitor - preferably of Ordo Malleus. :)

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Shadow of Anthares:

Well, navigators are not slaves or mindless tools.
Our lovely kitten Cassia is a member of a fakking Great House of the fakkin Navis Nobilite :)

Thus - it's not the question of dragging her around.
The real question is - who will be scrubbing the floor from the pinky/red goo remaining of someone stupid enough to try and forbid Navigator from going ashore being in a rank less than inquisitor - preferably of Ordo Malleus. :)

That does not matter. If she was in the Imperial Navy, she probably would be Sanctum bound for most of her career.
However, Rogue Trader act on the fringes of the galaxy, so they have to be more resourceful and flexible.

[Megapewpew]

Noble Navigators, as described in the source books are a bit spoiled and willful and even as a Rogue Trader Navigator they are more of an ally then a simple servant of your house you order around. So if they want to go out with you...well they are going to go out with you. And they bring a lot to the table too so unless the rogue trader is particularly concerned for their life they wont make a fuss, being able to fry normies with your eye or use their very capable education and connections to help the rogue trader out is worth it for them.

Typically tho, it is RP'd that you have a couple understudies that come with you when you become a Navigator for a ship, and most Navigators who want to spread their wings will join a Rogue Trader's ship.

So, ya, it's always been a bit of a handwave in terms of the underlying danger of it, but there are reasonable in lore explanations for it. That isnt to say, YOU can make a more conservative decision and refuse to take her with you on the more dangerous planets/events, but some Rogue Traders would be willing to risk it, if they feel like "they can handle it".

[heh]

The lore-friendly reason is, rogue traders have an extremely inflated opinion of themselves, and they think it's only appropriate to drag a navigator around with them as they do everything from shopping to wandering through the jungle hunting xenos for sport.

[heh]

Originally posted by Shadow of Anthares:

Well, navigators are not slaves or mindless tools.
Our lovely kitten Cassia is a member of a fakking Great House of the fakkin Navis Nobilite :)

Thus - it's not the question of dragging her around.
The real question is - who will be scrubbing the floor from the pinky/red goo remaining of someone stupid enough to try and forbid Navigator from going ashore being in a rank less than inquisitor - preferably of Ordo Malleus. :)

you kill at least two elite navigators just in the process of recruiting her, and then you can press her into your service against her will. while making it perfectly clear that you will happily gun her down if she bothers you. you can always find another navigator if you feel she isn't worth the bother anymore

[StrangelyEroticSoda]

This also clashed with my headcanon. But so does the actual Rogue Trader having to go scrub the cargo holds of Heretics every time we warp travel. I get that a lot of it comes from the TTRPG, but I also think some of it is just small concessions to make a cRPG fun.

[Cutlass Jack]

I have a hard time justifying dragging Cassia, Pasqal or Abelard around. The first two are absolutely critical people you couldn't even leave system without. And Abelard's job should really be running the ship while the Rogue Trader is galavanting about.

In Cassia's case specifically, I justify taking her around because she's been locked away her entire life and seeing the universe makes her happy. And a happy Cass means less crewmen gouging their own eyes out.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

I have a hard time justifying dragging Cassia, Pasqal or Abelard around. The first two are absolutely critical people you couldn't even leave system without. And Abelard's job should really be running the ship while the Rogue Trader is galavanting about.

In Cassia's case specifically, I justify taking her around because she's been locked away her entire life and seeing the universe makes her happy. And a happy Cass means less crewmen gouging their own eyes out.

The game doesn't explicitly give you a "backup" navigator or tech priest, but those things should be trivial for a Rogue Trader to acquire provided they aren't marooned in a chaos-infested system like at the start of the game. Even if your only remaining Navigator were to bite it, calling for a replacement to be shipped to you is fully within your power.

As far as the question why risk it in the first place, I have a better question: why risk your own life in the first place? The Rogue Trader himself is far more irreplaceable than a simple navigator or tech priest. If you are going to be putting yourself in danger, there is absolutely no logic in holding your best people back.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

I have a hard time justifying dragging Cassia, Pasqal or Abelard around. The first two are absolutely critical people you couldn't even leave system without. And Abelard's job should really be running the ship while the Rogue Trader is galavanting about.

In Cassia's case specifically, I justify taking her around because she's been locked away her entire life and seeing the universe makes her happy. And a happy Cass means less crewmen gouging their own eyes out.

The game doesn't explicitly give you a "backup" navigator or tech priest, but those things should be trivial for a Rogue Trader to acquire provided they aren't marooned in a chaos-infested system like at the start of the game. Even if your only remaining Navigator were to bite it, calling for a replacement to be shipped to you is fully within your power.

As far as the question why risk it in the first place, I have a better question: why risk your own life in the first place? The Rogue Trader himself is far more irreplaceable than a simple navigator or tech priest. If you are going to be putting yourself in danger, there is absolutely no logic in holding your best people back.

A properly trained Navigator or Techpriest are definitely not trivial to aquire. There are extremely good reason why they are nobility and clergymen repectively. Both are extremely rare to find, specially outside the Imperium, where you are.

[Shadow of Anthares]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Shadow of Anthares:

Well, navigators are not slaves or mindless tools.
Our lovely kitten Cassia is a member of a fakking Great House of the fakkin Navis Nobilite :)

Thus - it's not the question of dragging her around.
The real question is - who will be scrubbing the floor from the pinky/red goo remaining of someone stupid enough to try and forbid Navigator from going ashore being in a rank less than inquisitor - preferably of Ordo Malleus. :)

That does not matter. If she was in the Imperial Navy, she probably would be Sanctum bound for most of her career.
However, Rogue Trader act on the fringes of the galaxy, so they have to be more resourceful and flexible.

You are correct about navigators being far from free, but I believe, there are one thing you forgot to mention. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

Right now (acording to current lore) Navigators are operating on their own jusrisdition.
First and mainly - they should follow Imperial Laws and rules set by Adeptus Astra Telepathica.
Second - they serve their clans.
And only if this service leads them to a ship - then they will follow rules and orders of a person commanding this ship.