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No. It objectively is not.
Ordinatus do not carry ship mounted weapons. Macro Cannon is any large scale artillery.
No. They don't have a thousand times the yield. They have 100'000 times the yield. With Torpedoes getting an EXPLICIT figure of over 500 Gigatons. (112 Five Gigaton Submunition Warheads)
"Every weapon in the battleship's arsenal was prepared and oriented down at the surface; torpedo arrays filled with warshots that could atomise whole continents in a single strike, energy cannons capable of boiling off oceans, kinetic killers that could behead mountains through the brute force of their impact. This was only the power of the ship itself; then there was the minor fleet of auxiliary craft aboard it, wings of fighters and bombers that could come screaming down into Dagonet's atmosphere on plumes of white fire. Swift death bringers that could raze cities, burn nations."
Pg.561 Nemesis
"'Orders, my lord?' 'This ends,' said Sanguinius. 'Admiral DuCade, slave gun control on all vessels present to my word of command. Tell every shipmaster to prime their cyclonic torpedoes and megaweapon-gauge systems for full bombardment. Target Holst.' A ripple of uncertainty passed through the human crew at the thought of such mammoth overkill. 'All weapons? Against the hive-city?' DuCade asked. 'Against the planet,' corrected the primarch. 'Synchronize aim-points along the equator, track for geological flux. I want this world shattered.'
vAzkaellon felt a chill run through him. The hammer of the Emperor's will was a powerful force, and in the wars of the Great Crusade it had often been regrettably necessary to punish whole worlds with ruthless intent. The Guard Commander had seen cities wiped off the map in the blink of an eye, vaporised by lance cannons and macronuclear bombs; continents seared by laser barrages; skies scorched. And while the power to kill a world ? to truly, utterly destroy it ? had always rested within the reach of the Legiones Astartes, it was not an order that Azkaellon had ever witnessed in execution. 'All shipmasters report guns at ready.' DuCade read back the status in a dead voice, as if she was unwilling to believe what would come next.
'Your will, my lord.' Azkaellon did not feel any less of the primarch's anger at the destruction of the Paleknight, he knew that no one aboard these sister-ships felt otherwise; but the act of war that was before them still gave him pause. Finally, Sanguinius turned away from the great window and looked his old friend and comrade in the eye. In the Angel's noble face there was at once a great distance that reminded Azkaellon of just how far his master was set above even his superior transhumanity. And within it, he saw a determination, dense as neutronium and equally unbreakable. 'My patience with this shadow-play is at an end,' said the primarch, and the words seemed to be for Azkaellon alone. 'The order is given: exterminatus extremis.'
The void surrounding the planet Holst flashed crimson as energies were liberated and directed, as a surge of weapons of mass destruction hurtled from launch tubes and bore down upon the turbulent world. Energy pulses struck first, moving at the speed of light and boiling away the vapours shrouding the sky, punching into the nitrogen ice surface. Rocky under-strata that had been sealed beneath permafrost for millions of years were burned clean and exposed. The torpedo barrage came seconds after, great fusion-powered rockets tipped with lethal warheads. Each had the power to lay waste to a continent, but in this instance they were combined with force enough to spear the molten heart of a world. Whatever unreal influence had spread its cancerous instrumentality through Holst-Prime Hive spilled into the matter of the planet itself.
On some primitive level, perhaps the world had even become alive, transformed by dark power into an almost-consciousness. But it died now, perishing in revenge for the deaths of the crew of the Paleknight, for Brother Xagan and all the other legionaries. Dying for the offence its existence gave to the Angel Sanguinius. Like a tormented animal, the planet ended with a tortured scream that even the void could not silence."
Pg.154 Fear to Tread
"Finally, the predator ships of the war fleet parted to allow the largest of their number to face the Eisenstein. If the frigate was a fox to the wolves of the battleships, then against this craft it became no more than an insect before a colossus. There were moons that massed less than the giant. It was the clenched hand of a god carved from dark asteroid stone, a nickel-iron behemoth pocked with craters and spiked with broad towers that jutted from its surface.
At a great distance, the vessel would have resembled the head of a mace, filigreed with gold and black iron. At close range, a city's worth of spires and gantries reached out, many of them glowing with the light of thousands of windows, others concealing nests of weapons capable of killing a continent. Ships like the Eisenstein were carried in fanged docks around the circumference of the colossus, and as it drifted closer the sheer mass of its gravity gently tugged at the frigate, altering her course. Autonomous weapons drones deployed in hornet swarms, staging around the drifting craft. As one, they turned powerful searchlights on the ruined hull and pinned the frigate to the black of the void, drenching her in blinding white beams."
Pg.484 The Flight of the Eisenstein.
"Outside the station the macro cannon and lances of the Aethon began to rotate. Plasma flushed into reactors and energy wells, the fury of suns snarling in its shackles."
Pg.100 Fateweaver
"A bombardment had begun, and the people of Dagonet's capital feared it was the end of the world.
They knew so little of the reality of things, however. High above in orbit, it was only the warship Thanato that fired on the city, and even then it was not with the vessel's most powerful cannons. The people did not know that a fleet of craft were poised in silence around their sister ship, watchful and waiting. Had all the vessels of the Warmaster's flotilla unleashed their killpower, then indeed those fears would have come true; the planet's crust cracked, the continents sliced open. Perhaps those things would happen, soon enough ? but for now it was sufficient for the Thanato to hurl inert kinetic kill-rods down through the atmosphere, the sky-splitting shriek of their passage climaxed by a lowing thunder as the warshots obliterated power stations, military compounds and the vast mansion-houses of the noble clans. From the ground it seemed like wanton destruction; from orbit, it was a shrewd and surgical pattern of attack."
Pg.626 Nemesis
"Nothing in our inventory would even come close to doing the job, but an astropathic message to the nearest naval unit would bring a task force here within weeks, and a flotilla of battleships ought to be enough to level the continent. A couple of barrages from their lance batteries would be enough to excise this cancer, however deeply it was buried.
Of course the planet would be rendered uninhabitable for generations, but no one in their right mind would be willing to set foot here once the necron presence was known in any case, so the question was pretty moot. And if anyone were foolish enough to demur, I had no doubt that Amberley would bring the full force of the Inquisition to bear on the objectors the moment I appraised her of the situation."
-Ciaphas Cain series, Caves of Ice, page 169(pdf version)
"A mighty Repulsive-class Grand Cruiser with powerful reactors and heavy armour in sloping facets of adamantine and ceramite scores of metres thick, the vessel carried a weight of armament and ordnance that could reduce a continent to ruins with a single salvo."-Black Crusade
There are varying sizes and patterns of macrocannon. It's not a uniform "Yep, this is the single design that exists" weapon.
Precisely!
you sure about that?
we have weights of ship in megatons
Mass: 40 megatonnes approx thats heaviest grand cruiser we have solid numbers on
at terminal velocity entire grand cruiser will impact ground with 0.14459847 megaton of force.
To play with this further, we know that this specific grand cruiser
Accel: 2.2 gravities max sustainable acceleration.
Void combat turns in rpg take 30 minutes.
to go from dead stop it can reach 39600m/s
which means at that speed it will ram another ship with 74959847.036 megatons of force, thats 7500 gigatons
entire ship on full burn.
"This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight! Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class Dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means: Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in space! (...) I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty! Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going 'till it hits something! That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime!"
Yes. I know it for a fact. A Nova cannon is ALSO just a weapon cateegory. Ship based Nova cannons are well over half a kilometre in length. Ordinatus Oberon wasn't more than 100m in length.
Known ships equipped with Nova Cannons
Ark Mechanicus[5a]
Apocalypse Class Battleship[6]
Victory Class Battleship[5b]
Mars Class Battlecruiser[1a]
Mercury Class Battlecruiser[5b]
Dominator Class Cruiser[1b]
Individual Vessels
Alcazar Remembered - A Battle Barge of the Fists Exemplar, ca. 544.M32 (retrofit).[7]
Oberon - An Ordinatus.[8]
I'm sure you think that bolsters your point. Fact is it doesn't. Since it isn't a full sized nova cannon. And isn't mounted on a navy warship capable of destroying a Titan with a single shot.
At half speed this 20 kg shell would quarter as powerful so we can speculate.
Fact is 40k have ship weapon mounted on ground unit and it doesnt vaporate continents.
I also made mistake in that one which i frixed in later post.
In the case of the plasma version of the Nova Cannon you are right, we don't know. But the majority of Nova Cannons are graviometrically impelled 50m diameter projectiles accelerated to .99c
*Not always though. We have seen other variants of Nova cannons, like massive laser variants.
The Ordinatus weapon is not the equal of its space equivalent. Not even REMOTELY close.
And in doing so reduced it to a fifth of the scale at best with a THOUSANDTH of the power generation capacity AT BEST.