PAYDAY 2
FPS drops every 30 secs or so [SUPPORT] [POSSIBLY FIXED]
Whenever I play PD2 (no other games, mind you), I average 90+FPS. My computer's fairly good. However, starting recently, I've experienced framerate drops every 30 seconds- 2 minutes or so down to 5-10 FPS. It's really game breaking. It doesn't always happen but when it is happening I have to restart my computer 3 or more times for it to stop happening for 5 minutes of gameplay before it starts again. Not to mention that my computer takes a while to restart. So, restarting isn't practical. I tried several fixes involving using the Nvidia control panel but still doesn't work. I did some diagnostics, and apparently whenever the drops happen, my computer's resource consumption on everything (CPU, Memory, etc.) actually goes down . I have no idea what's happening or how to fix it but until then I pretty much can't play PD2 in a practical manner or help my team in any way. Any suggestions, or am I going to have to let go of PD2?

**EDIT**
The problem may be fixed thanks to Zee- running the game as admin and with the Shadowmap mod, and so far I haven't encountered the issue. Stay posted just in case it happens again.

**EDIT AGAIN**
It started again. :/
Автор останньої редакції: pom; 9 січ. 2015 о 15:48
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so V-Sync was causing the problem? .. figures
Цитата допису Manxy:
so V-Sync was causing the problem? .. figures
I think the solution was running it as Admin and using Spy's Shadow Map mod. And I think the cause was that his card simply can't run it on the highest settings with everything maxed out without stuttering/lagging.
Цитата допису Zee:
Цитата допису Manxy:
so V-Sync was causing the problem? .. figures
I think the solution was running it as Admin and using Spy's Shadow Map mod. And I think the cause was that his card simply can't run it on the highest settings with everything maxed out without stuttering/lagging.

Well idk my PC can totally handle Payday 2 i run it maxed out , native resolution and dont get a single fps drop... exepct for the menus when i view a weapon there is like 25% chance i will get like a 30fps (or micro stutter idk cause fraps still shows like 60 fps when it happens)

BUT it gets to normal when i either exit the menu or apply/remove a weapon mod lol idk whats up with that..

And it never happens in lobby/loadout screen or during heists .. only in menus just menus
Автор останньої редакції: Alucard †; 9 січ. 2015 о 13:03
Цитата допису Manxy:
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I don't knwo why, but in these menus Overkill has a 30 FPS lock, means: You will never get 40, 60, 5 Billion FPS. It's not an issue.
Автор останньої редакції: jae; 9 січ. 2015 о 13:08
Цитата допису Zee:
Цитата допису Manxy:
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I don't knwo why, but in these menues Overkill has a 30 FPS lock, means: You will never get 40, 60, 5 Billion FPS. It's not an issue.

But thats the weird part the menus run in 60 fps most of the time (at least it feels like it) it only has a chance .. its not guaranteed but when i browse the weapon/skill menus sometimes it starts to feel like 30 fps.. but when i reapply a weapon mod or re-enter the menu it gets back to being smooth again.
Автор останньої редакції: Alucard †; 9 січ. 2015 о 13:08
Crap. It started again >_<

**EDIT**
Disabled display scaling on high DPI settings, set to 16-bit color through Com[patibility menu. Drops happen less often and last shorter. Also, checked Read-Only, and FPS drops now only go to a minimum of 18, and recover faster.
Автор останньої редакції: pom; 9 січ. 2015 о 15:54
Цитата допису Rokk:
Sounds like overheating. Clean out your PC.
Already ran a dust remover function that came with the computer several times. I doubt it's (still?) that.

On another note,
I reset the Nvidia control panel settings for the game, then made sure Vsync was still off. This included making sure Antialiasing was up to the game. It runs sooo much better. I can actually go up to 5 minutes w/o this happening, and when it does happen it's even less problematic.
Цитата допису Manxy:
Цитата допису Zee:
I think the solution was running it as Admin and using Spy's Shadow Map mod. And I think the cause was that his card simply can't run it on the highest settings with everything maxed out without stuttering/lagging.

Well idk my PC can totally handle Payday 2 i run it maxed out , native resolution and dont get a single fps drop... exepct for the menus when i view a weapon there is like 25% chance i will get like a 30fps (or micro stutter idk cause fraps still shows like 60 fps when it happens)

BUT it gets to normal when i either exit the menu or apply/remove a weapon mod lol idk whats up with that..

And it never happens in lobby/loadout screen or during heists .. only in menus just menus
Not a single FPS Drop? then Play Hoxton Breakout, Hotline Miami, Shadow Raid.. these larger maps have 100% performance issues.. and mostly stutter and drop framerate while loading in new Chunks of the map.. and i'm on a damn fast SSD so it's a Game issue and not my Rig at all since it can handle better looking games like Crysis 3 (Has large open levels aswell), Skyrim Modded and other games. It's simply the Engine being trash.. sounds harsh but it's true.. it's from 2001 after all.. and Payday 2 does not look good enough to be such a performance hog.. the only thing we can hope is that the devs will finally use the money they make from DLC's, to upgrade the engine, optimize it and make it run better.. along with adding more proper graphical settings such as Antialiasing. They also want to bring it out for PS4 and Xbone.. but with this outdated look of the game..? i doubt it.. unless they want to save money for whatever and keep it ugly like that.
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
Not a single FPS Drop? then Play Hoxton Breakout, Hotline Miami, Shadow Raid..

Huh?

Dont have fps drops in any of those heists, not a single stutter either i only get slight hitching in crimenet when lobbies are poping up or when goin down in safehouse basement it hitches for 0.5 sec then stops.

and on Hotline Miami day 2 i got slight mouse lag when i look from balcony at the direction of small room but thats it fps just drops from 60 to 50 on that balcony

and im not even OCing , factory settings all the way.

Everything maxed in payday 2 + Vsync on

On the other hand my Skyrim runs like ♥♥♥♥ i had to use fake fullscreen to get rid of micro- stuttering and tone down Distance detail to medium to reduce hitching , yet i still get fps drops to 40 inside cities .. so yea PD2 dosent have that bad optimalization like some other games.
Автор останньої редакції: Alucard †; 9 січ. 2015 о 21:53
Цитата допису Manxy:
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
Not a single FPS Drop? then Play Hoxton Breakout, Hotline Miami, Shadow Raid..

Huh?

Dont have fps drops in any of those heists

and on Hotline Miami day 2 i got slight mouse lag when i look from balcony at the direction of small room but thats it fps just drops from 60 to 50 on that balcony

and im not even OCing , factory settings all the way.

On the other hand my Skyrim runs like ♥♥♥♥ i had to use fake fullscreen to get rid of micro- stuttering and tone down Distance detail to medium to reduce hitching , yet i still get fps drops to 40 inside cities .. so yea PD2 dosent have that bad optimalization like some other games.
Constant 60 Fps or higher then? Hard to believe with such an Unoptimized Game.. though i play in 1440p.. which my 780Ti's should handle without issue.. like they do with every Demanding game (Except the trashy console ports from Ubisoft lately.. but i don't play these) Especially in Hotlime Miami Day 2 in this Hotel.. my framerates tank down to 30 fps which is NOT acceptable. Tell me your secret then to get no framerate drops.
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
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secret? better PC i guess? :3 - tho idk you havent said what specs you have.

only thing i've done beside maxing everything out on PD2 was locking my framerate to same of my monitors refresh rate (60 fps lock) nothing else.
Автор останньої редакції: Alucard †; 9 січ. 2015 о 21:57
Цитата допису Manxy:
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
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secret? better PC than yours i guess? :3 - tho idk you havent said what specs you have.

only thing i've done beside maxing everything out on PD2 was locking my framerate to same of my monitors refresh rate (60 fps lock) nothing else.
Better Specs? i doubt it :3. I have a i7 5960x at 5Ghz, 780Ti SLI (Asus DCU2 OC 1300Mhz), 32GB DDR4 Ram 3000Mhz low latency, a fast 256GB SSD, 128GB SSD (OS), and 2x1 TB HDD's.. yet this game drops below 60 fps especially in those larger maps.. and the framerate fluctuates between 35 fps and 135.
And i've got Vsync off because it makes the mouse movement horrible as hell.. and the mouse movement is also tied to framerate (one of the worst engine issues ever), making it almost impossible to aim.. plus tearing is more noticeable the lower the framerate is.. :/ If i had one of these cheap and poorly performing intel GPU's.. it would be understandable.. but 780Ti's.. overclocked.. these are beasty cards that can eat any game i throw at them (again, except the unoptimized crappy Ubisoft games) with maxed out + a bit antialiasing with 60 Fps and higher.. but this game is not one of these.. it just makes no sense since it looks really ugly.. especially the textures.
Автор останньої редакції: MeowCats; 9 січ. 2015 о 22:04
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
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And you cant run Payday 2 maxed out without issues with those specs? Wow..

This is why i stick to ATI/AMD hardware...
Цитата допису Manxy:
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
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And you cant run Payday 2 maxed out without issues with those specs? Wow..

This is why i stick to ATI/AMD hardware...
LOL you cat to be kitten me. AMD Performs worse than Intel/Nvidia. Not even a Monster Computer can run poorly coded/optimized Games properly.. and this has nothing to do with how well maintained it is.. ofcourse it is well maintained and Dust free.. it's not like i'm stupid or lazy and just bought a computer without knowing how to maintain it. Atleast the game is fun.. if i ignore the poorly coded AI and all the Bugs it has.
Цитата допису Mew Catnip:
LOL you cat to be kitten me. AMD Performs worse than Intel/Nvidia.

maybe , maybe not
but it deffinitley has a lot less software-related issues than Intel/Nvidia thats for sure.

Which is maybe why i can run Payday 2 maxed without so much of hic up? Idk
it could be your OC'd hardware bottlenecking on PD2 idk
Автор останньої редакції: Alucard †; 9 січ. 2015 о 22:20
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