Payday 2 optional intro cutscene downloads and update sizes

[Gyrosaurus]

TL;DR ** Can't intro movies be made optional -- like an in-game menu-item, like "Watch Cutscenes"? **

Or just get rid of them altogether and focus on improving gameplay...

Is it really just me or waiting an hour for a 15 minute HD intro video feels like a waste of time and bandwidth? After all, I'm just going to skip it everytime the game launches so I can get to playing anyway.

Let me clarify. I really like payday 2. I like PLAYING IT. But if i wanted bad action movies I'd watch the new george lucas' or michael bay's works. Being forced to wait for the download of a 2gb Hi-def video file that I never asked for, don't care for, and never going to watch again feels wrong, and I realize I avoid launching the game for a few days/weeks everytime I see an update, and go play something else.

Everytime payday 2 tells me I have a new huge update waiting to download i think: "Ugh. Here they go again. Jerking off on the job, wanting to be hollywood movie producers instead of being game developers." Intro movies are not INTERACTIVE. Games are defined by their gameplay, not by their cutscenes... Cutscenes are a good tool for storytelling, but if you have to use 15min cutscenes to show exciting action in an action game, you're probably doing something wrong.

BTW, I'm only writing this because right now i'm waiting for the new payday 2 update to complete. And I'm bored, and I'm annoyed by it. After all, I logged in to play, not to wait for another intro movie. I think I have to go watch some tv while I wait, once again.

[Habits]

You can't avoid downloading it in updates, but this will save you some time if you don't want to skip it everytime after hearing Clover say "THA DYAMEND" 100 times.

Launch options: -novid

[Stonepaq]

Clickin' one time in the title screen is too much for a lazy ass like you.

[Monarch]

Love your thread. But you brought me dread news.

So there's a new PD2 update? Well, my Steam has yet to recieve it.
I'm also downloading several other games.
And knowing Payday 2 always have these odd download speed and chops...

Oh the horror...

Originally posted by Stonepaq:

Clickin' one time in the title screen is too much for a lazy ass like you.

I don't think OP is talking about the intro being unskippable or whatever.

The problem reside at the unwanted bandwidth / data storage.
Personally I don't give two ♥♥♥♥ about the intro movie, after watching it on youtube / Overkill site. That's it, I never really re-watch it ever again.

But for those of us who have a data limit, or limited hard drive, we'd prefer to not waste space on trivial intro movies like these.

Or for the really hard core fans, I'd guess they wouldn't want to wait for an extra hour download time just for something of a one time use. In comparison, they'd rather wait 30 minutes download for something they can play, and enjoy. Instead of a 2 hours download time, for a 30 minutes actual game contents.

[Gyrosaurus]

Originally posted by Happy New Habits:

You can't avoid downloading it in updates, but this will save you some time if you don't want to skip it everytime after hearing Clover say "THA DYAMEND" 100 times.

Launch options: -novid

Thanks, it sure helps a bit!

Originally posted by Stonepaq:

Clickin' one time in the title screen is too much for a lazy ass like you.

LOL, I guess it is. But I guess you also love when you click "Play" on steam and then the pop-up for "You clicked the play button. Did you really mean you wanted to play the game or did you want to see the support information for this game instead?"

[=SB= Malo]

-skip_intro also works fine.

[Gyrosaurus]

Originally posted by Quiet:

Love your thread. But you brought me dread news.

So there's a new PD2 update? Well, my Steam has yet to recieve it.
I'm also downloading several other games.
And knowing Payday 2 always have these odd download speed and chops...

Oh the horror...

Oh the horror. LOL. Yeah. Sad but true. But you probably already got it. As mentioned, I've been avoiding the updates for a while now. They've been taunting me and saying "You can't avoid me forever, and you know it, bwahahahah".

So I felt like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it while I waited for it to finish laughing at me and telling me that it's my own fault for having so many games on steam... And a little bit of wishful thinking the devs might be listening. After all, It's a complaint and a praise at the same time... Damn dialetics!

[Brovah]

Most of these intros are actually trailers for upcoming heists/characters. The Dentist intro waas the trailer for the Big Bank and the other 3 released DLC heists. With John Wick Lionsgate let them borrow a scene from the actual movie and put it in there. Hoxton Breakout again was the trailer they spent a really long ass time on and is actually really well made (baring the shell ejections) This newest one is the trailer for The Diamond DLC, and while I agree that we shouldn't have them in the intros when you start up the game they definetally shouldn't stop making them to advertise new updates/DLC.

[Gyrosaurus]

+Brovah, I can respect that. They should still make them, sure. Post them on youtube. Release to gaming websites. Even link from news from within the game. Create awareness. Hype them as much as they can. **Force** you to download and watch DLC advertisement, ugh, no...

Once upon a time, I thought i liked borderlands 2. Then they started making the DLCs you didn't have nag you while in-game (by putting them on top of the fast travel menu) and opening the browser everytime you clicked on them by accident. I said "&*#! you, Gearbox, I already bought the game, stop trying to upsell me. I'll think two times before I ever buy a game from you again." Things like this usually push you the other way around... They don't get you excited. They just get you frustrated.

Think of your phone/cable company calling you to sell you a 'better' plan. When you want a new plan, you'll call them and ask for it. This is the digital equivalent.

So while Overkill is *still* much better than that, once quote-unquote marketing takes over a company, it's a slippery slope. Remember EA, remember EA.

[McKillem]

+1

Every patch with a trailer is me downloading everything fast and then waiting up to an hour for all my friends, some of whom have limited bandwidth.

[McKillem]

Seeing how the new update is almost there, and it will most likely include the new trailer in all it's HD glory, this thread will become relevant once again.

I'm quite sure most of us see trailers online in the update announcements and skip intro to get right to the game when firing it up. Having links to the youtube versions would be enough for those who want to watch the trailers, and would save people with data caps some scarce traffic.

[Metaellihead]

You can change your launch options if you don't want to see them, but I honestly don't know why it really matters.

This is new content that they've made as a cutscene to push the game narrative along. It should be in the game by default, because it's part of the experience.

If you're honestly complaining about the bandwidth, upgrade from your AOL or DSL or whatever it is you have, or upgrade to an SSD. You would be amazed how much faster you download files after getting one.

[McKillem]

Originally posted by Metaellihead:

You can change your launch options if you don't want to see them, but I honestly don't know why it really matters.

This is new content that they've made as a cutscene to push the game narrative along. It should be in the game by default, because it's part of the experience.

If you're honestly complaining about the bandwidth, upgrade from your AOL or DSL or whatever it is you have, or upgrade to an SSD. You would be amazed how much faster you download files after getting one.

You're missing the point. Here's the summary for you:

1. Some people simply don't have access to quality internet where they live, for one reason or the other. They would upgrade if they could, there's cimply no way they possibly can. Downloading trailers in HD quality takes time in which they'll probably be able to watch the trailer online if they really wanted to or dive right into the game instead without any additional waiting.

2. Other people have caps on their bandwidth per month, sometimes as low as 20 GB per month.. Spending 0.5 to 1 GB from the monthly quota on a trailer that you can watch online in HD quality if you want to is a waste. Those who have unlimited bandwidth would lose nothing, those who have limited would save traffic. Simple as that.

I know people of both categories. Like I've said earlier, most of the time I have to wait for my friends to finish downloads for up to an hour, and sometimes due to different timezones we easily end up being unable to play together because of that wait.

[Ashe]

+1 on this.

An extra click doesn't bother me. But downloading a new movie every time Overkill releases a new trailer? No. I have limited internet per month and it's eaten up by ♥♥♥♥♥♥ trailers put at the start of the game that I, more often than not, already saw on youtube because they linked it in an announcement weeks prior.

Overkill. Stop doing it. It's obnoxious and annoying.

[Che Eder]

Why don't you just make your point without all the insults? Can't you just write down your request, back it up with the reasons you have and and leave it at that? It would make your post stronger.

[CONTROLLER ONLY MAN]

I say upload it to YouTube and an option tab that goes "Watch Intro/Cutscene" with links.