Dupe card (PLEASE FIX!)

[navossoc]

Please fix this exploit!

I'm always being kicked because I don't want to dupe the cards.

People are doing hoxton breakout on very hard and trying to dupe cards, ♥♥♥♥ you!
This is ridiculous...

My suggestion is quite simple:

If the card exists on all clients memory at the same time. (that is the problem?)

When you "get the item" send a REQ packet to the host.
The host answer a ACK to the client (if its the first REQ) confirming the card is valid.
Otherwise, answer a simple DEL (to clear the card from inventory/location)

So simple, no dupes. A bit more of delay? of course...

So, if all the players try to get it at the same time, who send the FIRST REQ should grab it.
You can simple add the card to the inventory after you receive the ACK.

Probably host will get the cards everytime, because he has 0 latency, but who cares!

I hope you guys get the idea and make some use of it!

Maybe it's just add a check of number of cards in the new anti cheat? WHY NOT!?

[Dr. Faustus]

well buddy, if anyone in the crew is cool with duping it, than its cool.
if three are cool duping and u are not, than a) u are are overruled by majority or b) leave the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ server and host ur own.

[Brovah]

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Dr. Faustus eredeti hozzászólása:

no cause the dupe feature in the game can be used by ANYONE as a "gamefeature".
so nobody suffers from it, except u are crying because of garbage.
a hack not.

Feature !~ exploit.

According to Wikipedia:
Exploit: a sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behavior to occur on computer software, hardware

Duplicating keycards falls under exploit. Taking advantage of a bug to cause unintended behavior. Hacking falls under an exploit, taking advantage of a vulnerability.

Exploit = exploit, check. Hacking is an exploit, keycard duping is an exploit, where's the difference? Both can be done by anyone whenever they want and both cause the same things to happen.

Therefore what you are saying is: hacking is alright because keycard duping is a "feature".

Unintended or unanticipated behavior. Except the behavior from duping cards is intended and expected by everyone doing it.

[Deadoon]

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Dr. Faustus eredeti hozzászólása:

no cause the dupe feature in the game can be used by ANYONE as a "gamefeature".
so nobody suffers from it, except u are crying because of garbage.
a hack not.

Feature !~ exploit.

According to Wikipedia:
Exploit: a sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behavior to occur on computer software, hardware

Duplicating keycards falls under exploit. Taking advantage of a bug to cause unintended behavior. Hacking falls under an exploit, taking advantage of a vulnerability.

Exploit = exploit, check. Hacking is an exploit, keycard duping is an exploit, where's the difference? Both can be done by anyone whenever they want and both cause the same things to happen.

Therefore what you are saying is: hacking is alright because keycard duping is a "feature".

Hacking generally refers to third party interactions, exploits are ingame actions generally.

Saying that a person that rode a bird ontop of a building in cs:go is a hacker is moronic to say the least, he is a sploiter.

[Bluewave41]

Brovah eredeti hozzászólása:

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Feature !~ exploit.

According to Wikipedia:
Exploit: a sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behavior to occur on computer software, hardware

Duplicating keycards falls under exploit. Taking advantage of a bug to cause unintended behavior. Hacking falls under an exploit, taking advantage of a vulnerability.

Exploit = exploit, check. Hacking is an exploit, keycard duping is an exploit, where's the difference? Both can be done by anyone whenever they want and both cause the same things to happen.

Therefore what you are saying is: hacking is alright because keycard duping is a "feature".

Unintended or unanticipated behavior. Except the behavior from duping cards is intended and expected by everyone doing it.

It's not intended by the software or developers which this is entirely based off of, not the players.

Deadoon eredeti hozzászólása:

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not intended by the software or developers which this is entirely based off of, not the players.

A software exploit is different in usage than a game exploit.

Why do you think there is a different term for a hack user and an exploit user?

Off topic. Keycard duping is just as bad as hacking in more keycards and produces the same results. There's no difference in this and an argument about hacking vs exploiting doesn't need to be discussed here.

[Deadoon]

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Brovah eredeti hozzászólása:

Unintended or unanticipated behavior. Except the behavior from duping cards is intended and expected by everyone doing it.

It's not intended by the software or developers which this is entirely based off of, not the players.

A software exploit is different in usage than a game exploit.

Why do you think there is a different term for a hack user and an exploit user?

[Elysia]

Host it and tell them to not dupe the damn cards.

[Deadoon]

Bluewave41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Deadoon eredeti hozzászólása:

A software exploit is different in usage than a game exploit.

Why do you think there is a different term for a hack user and an exploit user?

Off topic. Keycard duping is just as bad as hacking in more keycards and produces the same results. There's no difference in this and an argument about hacking vs exploiting doesn't need to be discussed here.

You were the one to call them the same.

They are not, anyone to call using a glitch in game hacking is quite deserving of ridicule.

[Foster Kia]

Schwoops eredeti hozzászólása:

Welp. Seems you're the ♥♥♥♥ in this case.

You might as well tell people they shouldn't be stealth/loud because it's not your lobby so not your rules.

You got kicked because you're a jackass who tried to domineer everyone else's game to suit your views. And you deserved it.

YES. THIS 9 MILLION TIMES.

[Aqua]

TheL4D2Player2 eredeti hozzászólása:

NO DUPE = NO VIDEOGAME
-(Youknowwho)

Huehuehuehue

[K-Boom]

Just fake that you attempted to dupe it, or grab it 1 sec earlier before anyone else :P

[Prinny]

navossoc eredeti hozzászólása:

Please fix this exploit!

I'm always being kicked because I don't want to dupe the cards.

People are doing hoxton breakout on very hard and trying to dupe cards, ♥♥♥♥ you!
This is ridiculous...

My suggestion is quite simple:

If the card exists on all clients memory at the same time. (that is the problem?)

When you "get the item" send a REQ packet to the host.
The host answer a ACK to the client (if its the first REQ) confirming the card is valid.
Otherwise, answer a simple DEL (to clear the card from inventory/location)

So simple, no dupes. A bit more of delay? of course...

So, if all the players try to get it at the same time, who send the FIRST REQ should grab it.
You can simple add the card to the inventory after you receive the ACK.

Probably host will get the cards everytime, because he has 0 latency, but who cares!

I hope you guys get the idea and make some use of it!

Maybe it's just add a check of number of cards in the new anti cheat? WHY NOT!?

The loot you obtain do not depend of the card you loot, you already have the item in your inventory at the time you complete the job.

Or they change the system but dunno when then do that x)

[The Dude]

Cash.net Prinny eredeti hozzászólása:

navossoc eredeti hozzászólása:

Please fix this exploit!

I'm always being kicked because I don't want to dupe the cards.

People are doing hoxton breakout on very hard and trying to dupe cards, ♥♥♥♥ you!
This is ridiculous...

My suggestion is quite simple:

If the card exists on all clients memory at the same time. (that is the problem?)

When you "get the item" send a REQ packet to the host.
The host answer a ACK to the client (if its the first REQ) confirming the card is valid.
Otherwise, answer a simple DEL (to clear the card from inventory/location)

So simple, no dupes. A bit more of delay? of course...

So, if all the players try to get it at the same time, who send the FIRST REQ should grab it.
You can simple add the card to the inventory after you receive the ACK.

Probably host will get the cards everytime, because he has 0 latency, but who cares!

I hope you guys get the idea and make some use of it!

Maybe it's just add a check of number of cards in the new anti cheat? WHY NOT!?

The loot you obtain do not depend of the card you loot, you already have the item in your inventory at the time you complete the job.

Or they change the system but dunno when then do that x)

We talk about duping keycards(and many other thing), not the card drop at the end of the heist.

[Prinny]

Ah x), sound stupid indeed, since we got enough keycard for most of the runs x) sorry for that

[Foster Kia]

TacoFox eredeti hozzászólása:

navossoc eredeti hozzászólása:

Sorry, Mr. Professional...

I had just become infamous and I was helping my friend to level up.
Which expect me to do? deathwish? really?

If you don't have anything useful to post, please, keep to yourself.

Oh no Mr. Casual, it was you who brought up the level issue. You are down gaming low level where it is rife with kicking for reasons more banal than not dupping when told to do so. You got kicked because the lobby owner did not value you as a player.

Since you are here QQing about this probelm it says volumes how you are as a player, and it tells me you don't do what you are told to do.

Not wanting to dupe is your choice in your own lobby, but you have no choice if its not your lobby.



There is a ton of things you can't do that we should be able to do. We should be able to shoot any door open short of a harden vault like door. If you do not know what shark teeth are for it is ment for you to jam a shotgun barrel into a door jam and shot out deadbolts and door handle assemblies. Being able to close the doors and making baracades would also be a doable perk for this game.

As for duping cards just imagine the crew has a card reader on their person and they are cloning cards. That tech exist and allows for duping magnetic strip and RFID. So while you are feigning whiny indignation remember your a criminal in this game, act like one.

Thank you.
But PLEASE.
THE GRAMMAR.

[TacoFox]

Toy Freddy eredeti hozzászólása:

TacoFox eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh no Mr. Casual, it was you who brought up the level issue. You are down there gaming at low level games where it is rife with kicking for reasons more banal than not dupping. You have gotten kicked because the lobby owner did not value you as a player.

Since you are here QQing about this problem it says volumes about how you are as a player, and it tells me you do not do what you are told to do.

Not wanting to dupe is your choice in your own lobby, but you have no choice if its not your lobby.



There are tons of things you can't do that we should be able to do. We should be able to shoot any door open short of a harden vault like door. If you do not know what shark teeth are for it is ment for you to jam a shotgun barrel into a door jam to shot out deadbolts, hinges, and door handle assemblies. Being able to close the doors and making baracades would also be a doable perk for this game.

As for duping cards just imagine the crew has a card reader on their person and they are cloning cards. That tech exist and allows for duping magnetic strip and RFID. So while you are feigning whiny indignation remember your a criminal in this game, act like one.

Thank you.
But PLEASE.
THE GRAMMAR.