What does expert driver and ace pilot do?

[dadnaya]

Oh and in the past in go bank i had once some1 who blackmailed you that you had to bring him money or he calls the police but it never happend again, was it changed?

[Sunk Cost Fallacy]

expert driver makes it so that theres no escape stage at the end of the heist
ace pilot is same i suppose?..

eitherway why did you stop reading payday 2 guide books, robin?...

[Sunk Cost Fallacy]

oh yes the ace pilot on go bank reduces the chance of failing to pickup the loot
in rats day 3 it brings a pilot to take the loot.

[burnt4crimes ( °□°）]

Expert driver means you can't get an escape day after the heist. Ace pilot does different things depending on the heist, but usually it is along the lines of arriving faster/in a better location. The thing you had with Go Bank is very rare, but still there.

[dadnaya]

Originally posted by Franz-jaeger:

expert driver makes it so that theres no escape stage at the end of the heist
ace pilot is same i suppose?..

eitherway why did you stop reading payday 2 guide books, robin?...

People buying it in stealth..
ggwp

I didn't, i'm archielog not a criminal
well though i AM a criminal xD

[DOY]

Originally posted by Franz-jaeger:

stage at the end of the heist

Wrong! The ace pilots functions varies on maps but mainly it just speeds up how fast the pillot will arrive; it has nothing to do with the chance at which he succeeds or misses for loot pick up.

Expert driver as you explained previously nullifies the chance to get escape stages it is a must have for loud mission; but useless in stealth.

I buy it regardless cuz money to burn and because i just buy all assets when presplanning is not available as hoxhud has a 1 button buys all assets function.

[Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Originally posted by DOY:

Originally posted by Franz-jaeger:

stage at the end of the heist

Wrong! The ace pilots functions varies on maps but mainly it just speeds up how fast the pillot will arrive; it has nothing to do with the chance at which he succeeds or misses for loot pick up.

i was talking about go bank.

[Regular Player]

Escape driver: If you buy it, you will never get a escape level at the end of any heist.
Ace pilot: Faster arrival time, and in rats puts itself in a better position. I've also heard that without Ace pilot, it can be destroyed, but those are rumors far as i know.

[revnant]

Originally posted by Franz-jaeger:

oh yes the ace pilot on go bank reduces the chance of failing to pickup the loot
in rats day 3 it brings a pilot to take the loot.

For Go Bank, I don't know if it reduces the chance to succeed, probably just comes faster.

For Rats Day 3, if you have loot, Bile will come either way. Ace Pilot just makes him come closer to the bus and arrive faster.

Edit: Added "Go Bank" and "Rats Day 3"

[ReV0LT]

Originally posted by dadnaya:

Originally posted by Franz-jaeger:

expert driver makes it so that theres no escape stage at the end of the heist
ace pilot is same i suppose?..

eitherway why did you stop reading payday 2 guide books, robin?...

People buying it in stealth..
ggwp

Well, you definitely don't want an escape when that heist botches but you've secured everything.

Then again, you don't want to restart a map when you have secured all loot just to not get an escape.

[dadnaya]

Originally posted by ReV0LT:

Originally posted by dadnaya:

People buying it in stealth..
ggwp

Well, you definitely don't want an escape when that heist botches but you've secured everything.

Then again, you don't want to restart a map when you have secured all loot just to not get an escape.

But stealth... it's impossible to have escape stage in stealth

[burnt4crimes ( °□°）]

Originally posted by dadnaya:

Originally posted by ReV0LT:

Well, you definitely don't want an escape when that heist botches but you've secured everything.

Then again, you don't want to restart a map when you have secured all loot just to not get an escape.

But stealth... it's impossible to have escape stage in stealth

"when that heist botches but you've secured everything."

In other words, when you are about to finish and the alarm goes off.

[Malidictus]

Are you sure an Expert Driver will never spawn an escape? Because I've had an escape with an Expert Driver once or twice. It seems like he just causes the Escape to spawn on a very very low chance.

[revnant]

Originally posted by Malidictus:

Are you sure an Expert Driver will never spawn an escape? Because I've had an escape with an Expert Driver once or twice. It seems like he just causes the Escape to spawn on a very very low chance.

It shouldn't spawn an escape unless there is a bug. I believe the Long guide also states that no escape should spawn if Escape Driver is purchased...

[Malidictus]

I just know for a fact that I've had at least one escape with an overtly purchased Expert Driver, but I don't remember which heist it was on.

[burnt4crimes ( °□°）]

Originally posted by Malidictus:

Are you sure an Expert Driver will never spawn an escape? Because I've had an escape with an Expert Driver once or twice. It seems like he just causes the Escape to spawn on a very very low chance.

It is supposed to completely remove the chance. From the changelog where they added it:

"Added Inside Man Assets on almost all levels so that you can buy a EXPERT DRIVER that 100% takes away the Escape."