Uh.. Mods...

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Not wanting to get on any ones bad side, but an Overkill dev jumped into a hostile thread and commented in a very mature and informative manner. He didn't lock the thread. He just shared his thoughts, and left us to soak it in.

I just read the recently locked threads mod response, and found it very well worded, informed, and in line with my own view with the company's DLC content and content releases. As a note, I largely agree with OK's decisions.

However, given the almost CONSTANT complaints you guys get about censuring comments and threads, do you think it is wise to comment in the thread, sharing your mind and then locking the thread?

Again... Please understand that I get the company's side, and I understand the side of the mods. you are the buffers which the company trusts to handle damage control when they are not present to do so. Yet, his just seems like an invitation to cause yet another rift in the Dev vs Community arguement.

Perhaps.. just let threads like this burn out, as they almost always do. When it hits 150 comments, maybe it is time to shut down the rant thread. But three posts in... It just appears more as damage control, as opposed to moderating.

I hope I didn't offend anyone, as I like the community mods, and have since PD:TH. But a mods job isn't to shut down a discussion or argument. They should free to interject, but their purpose is to keep things civil and on topic. They don't take a side, they moderate, like a ref in sports.

Just a helpful suggestion...

Post screen shot for posterity, just in case I hit the wrong nerve.

Zer0 out..

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引用自 Sir. Lagsalot：

A... mature post. On the PD2 Fourms? This feels... weird...

Anyway, glad to see a mature post.

Oh, I could lose my mind, and start screaming about how bows are stupid, include a few references to peoples sexuality and playing skill, and maybe add a few racist comments if you are feeling out of sorts.

I started reasonable, and intend to end so. I can get down and dirty, but I find if you don't drop to a similar level, you can defer the usual riff-raff by being to reasonable for them to argue against.

[Sir. Lagsalot]

引用自 Resistance Zer0：

引用自 Sir. Lagsalot：

A... mature post. On the PD2 Fourms? This feels... weird...

Anyway, glad to see a mature post.

Oh, I could lose my mind, and start screaming about how bows are stupid, include a few references to peoples sexuality and playing skill, and maybe add a few racist comments if you are feeling out of sorts.

I started reasonable, and intend to end so. I can get down and dirty, but I find if you don't drop to a similar level, you can defer the usual riff-raff by being to reasonable for them to argue against.

No-no please stay mature, I love it this way

[Red]

You type too much to say too little. We already know that there's stupid people around here who will use anything against the mods, their situation is a lose-lose all the time.

Just do what many of us do and ignore them. OVERKILL takes stupid decisions from time to time and we're able to express our opinion on that just fine (Which is why they're currently discussing what to do with the horrible infamy 2.0 system). There's a reason why the reddit sub calls this the cancerhub. I agree with them locking threads that are just repetitive and useless, we don't need yet another "WHERE ARE OUR COMPLETELY OVERKILL SECRET ITEMS???" thread.

If you want a good conversation just go to r/paydaytheheist. Most of the people are fine with that over there and you wont find circlejerk posts that are so common around here.

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引用自 Optimist Prime (the Gray)：

There's no way to give exact orders on key words or anything that will dictate "this is what you lock, this is what you don't." They're more given directives to use their best judgement. They are peacekeepers, the Jedi to our Republic, and their job is to make sure people stay civil, that's about it. And they do a very good job at it; this community has seen quite an improvement since the game released.

I think I know what thread you're referencing, and Cyrix is right, I think it was good that Tess locked that one. He was articulate, well-spoken, and reasonable in his response and the reason why he was locking it. A rage post where the OP immediately lashed out at the first comment is not a good sign for the rest of the thread. If the guy had been civil/respectful about the way he conveyed his message, the post wouldn't have been locked.

And with respect, it is kind of difficult to read some of your sentences. No offense is intended.
Cheers :chains:

I once wrote a 40 line paragraph in one sentence that my teachers couldn't nitpick... I'll tone it down.

And yes, I get the very open blanket that Moderators are given over the community, with little control aside from moving or shutting down a thread. My point is, that thread was another pointless anti-mod rant. It was going to burn out like just the rest. The community self regulates pretty well in that regard.

The issue is, with every other thread listing a censer or ban for comments, maybe waiting 3 posts in, making the last comment the mods, and locking it down was a poor choice. That was the whole point. Letting the community shut down a thread, as I suspect it was well on route to do, would have been a simpler solution.

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引用自 Red =T$CElite=：

You type too much to say too little. We already know that there's stupid people around here who will use anything against the mods, their situation is a lose-lose all the time.

Just do what many of us do and ignore them. OVERKILL takes stupid decisions from time to time and we're able to express our opinion on that just fine (Which is why they're currently discussing what to do with the horrible infamy 2.0 system). There's a reason why the reddit sub calls this the cancerhub. I agree with them locking threads that are just repetitive and useless, we don't need yet another "WHERE ARE OUR COMPLETELY OVERKILL SECRET ITEMS???" thread.

If you want a good conversation just go to r/paydaytheheist. Most of the people are fine with that over there and you wont find circlejerk posts that are so common around here.

I would, for all intents and purposes, rather gargle a full pack of old school razor blades while drinking a bottle of bleach and lemon juice than join a reddit thread.

I have a fully functional forum and a very workable friends list to allow me to talk to people I want to direct comments at. Why would I leave one of two official chats for a game, and join a third part commentary about the same subject?

The fact that some people from a company or group might check that, well, that is great. I have no reason to stray outside of the Steam or OK forums. I have nothing to say and nothing to do that might cause me an issue.

Thank you for informing me of the location of that information. I do get you can just type reddit and pretty much anything else and get the reddit for it. But I shall stay away.

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引用自 Red =T$CElite=：

You type too much to say too little. We already know that there's stupid people around here who will use anything against the mods, their situation is a lose-lose all the time.

Just do what many of us do and ignore them. OVERKILL takes stupid decisions from time to time and we're able to express our opinion on that just fine (Which is why they're currently discussing what to do with the horrible infamy 2.0 system). There's a reason why the reddit sub calls this the cancerhub. I agree with them locking threads that are just repetitive and useless, we don't need yet another "WHERE ARE OUR COMPLETELY OVERKILL SECRET ITEMS???" thread.

If you want a good conversation just go to r/paydaytheheist. Most of the people are fine with that over there and you wont find circlejerk posts that are so common around here.

And I do get the BS about certain things.. Good lord.. who was the mod that was running the hidden door in the pool BS in PD:TH? I still got a ton of fun game play from that rumor, but I was still mad. I studied every inch of carpet and every random painting in that BBQ heist. I killed so many dozers at the power boxes with my Reinbache, it got silly.

[Red]

引用自 Resistance Zer0：

引用自 Red =T$CElite=：

You type too much to say too little. We already know that there's stupid people around here who will use anything against the mods, their situation is a lose-lose all the time.

Just do what many of us do and ignore them. OVERKILL takes stupid decisions from time to time and we're able to express our opinion on that just fine (Which is why they're currently discussing what to do with the horrible infamy 2.0 system). There's a reason why the reddit sub calls this the cancerhub. I agree with them locking threads that are just repetitive and useless, we don't need yet another "WHERE ARE OUR COMPLETELY OVERKILL SECRET ITEMS???" thread.

If you want a good conversation just go to r/paydaytheheist. Most of the people are fine with that over there and you wont find circlejerk posts that are so common around here.

I would, for all intents and purposes, rather gargle a full pack of old school razor blades while drinking a bottle of bleach and lemon juice than join a reddit thread.

I have a fully functional forum and a very workable friends list to allow me to talk to people I want to direct comments at. Why would I leave one of two official chats for a game, and join a third part commentary about the same subject?

The fact that some people from a company or group might check that, well, that is great. I have no reason to stray outside of the Steam or OK forums. I have nothing to say and nothing to do that might cause me an issue.

Thank you for informing me of the location of that information. I do get you can just type reddit and pretty much anything else and get the reddit for it. But I shall stay away.

See, that's your problem, you're judging a sub forum because of the site's fame. You can't expect the situation around here to change for the better when you have such a baseless opinion towards a sub forum you have no idea about *just* because it's on Reddit. It's exactly the same attitude people who often cause trouble around here has (Including the ones calling out moderators on their censoring, even though it's not true at all).

You do realize that r/paydaytheheist is *one* out of *thousands* of subforums out there right? And that rational people dodge ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sub forums like r/games (THAT is one cesspool you should never touch) while sticking to other ones where people are actually rational right? In my case the payday sub forum is one of the very few I check along with r/steam and r/pcgaming. No one is going to force you to check every single reddit sub if you go to the payday one once.

Bonus points for actually having people from OVERKILL Software as part of their mod crew over there. Many of them even create "Ask Me Anything" threads over there all the time and you're missing out just because you're riding the reddit hate circlejerk (Of which I was part of in the past).

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Man.. I woke up this morning.. typed out a huge post about Reddit and then realized something. I am glad you can interact with people involved with Payday so freely over there. I really am.

But I don't really care enough about a minor game that takes up a small percentage of my actual hobbies time to follow it on a third forum. I think, instead of discussing it, I am going to go grab breakfast, then go see Fury Road, and then maybe come home and play a bit of the 20 or so games I actually have on my plate to complete.

Peace out.