Overkill screwed up on the Mateba

[Something]

The gun they're selling as an auto-revolver isn't the Mateba Auto-Revolver. It's a standard revolver known as the Mateba 2006M. The Mateba Auto-Revolver is the Model 6 Unica and is a much cooler gun.

Also, for those confused "auto-revolver" doesn't mean automatic. It means it uses a semi-automatic firing system rather than single or double-action.

[Gunsmith Noob]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sharpshooter 200:

weapon type: PISTOL

Magazine: 6
Total Ammo: 24
Rate of fire: 110
Damage: 75
Damage Multiplier: 2 (this means the damage will be 150, weapons beyond 120 use multipliers, for example thanathos is 120x24 multiplier)
Slot: Primary (this is weird, but the previous peacemaker gun also showed as primary before the release so it will likely change)
Reload time: 140 frames (about 2.3 seconds)
Reload time with at least 1 round: 140 frames
Accuracy: 16
Stability 12
Concealment: 24
Threat: 35

price: $1,220,000, it seems like the most expensive weapon to date
level required: 56

for recoil

ADS: 0 (same as snipers)
ADS moving: 2.0
Hip: 3.5
vertical: 1.2 to 1.8
horizontal -0.5 to 0.5

It can penetrate like snipers

armor penetration multiplier: 1x (tans armor)
shield penetration multiplier: 0.25x

Nabbed from /pdg/

Mmm, pretty accurate and kinda high recoil
Sniper-like penetration though? Wouldn't it be too much?

[Empress Misery]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xXxMLG( ͡Δ ͜ʖ ͡Δ)xXx:

fun fact:
there is no such thing as a bernetti 9 IRL. They are actually called berettas. and as no-one has brought this up since payday 2 was launched, now isnt a good time to start complaining about names.

Barely anyone has noticed the misspelling in the Nagant either...

[Bran Mak Morn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sharpshooter 200:

This new pistol seems to be the one that was shortly on the open_beta files, if it is the stats should be:

weapon type: PISTOL

Magazine: 6
Total Ammo: 24
Rate of fire: 110
Damage: 75
Damage Multiplier: 2 (this means the damage will be 150, weapons beyond 120 use multipliers, for example thanathos is 120x24 multiplier)
Slot: Primary (this is weird, but the previous peacemaker gun also showed as primary before the release so it will likely change)
Reload time: 140 frames (about 2.3 seconds)
Reload time with at least 1 round: 140 frames
Accuracy: 16
Stability 12
Concealment: 24
Threat: 35

price: $1,220,000, it seems like the most expensive weapon to date
level required: 56

for recoil

ADS: 0 (same as snipers)
ADS moving: 2.0
Hip: 3.5
vertical: 1.2 to 1.8
horizontal -0.5 to 0.5

It can penetrate like snipers

armor penetration multiplier: 1x (tans armor)
shield penetration multiplier: 0.25x

Nabbed from /pdg/

ok WHY would a .357 magnum do more damage and penetrate shields than the .44 magnum? or the .45 colt? what about the desert eagle, now shield penetration for that gun too? this looks worse with every new piece of info we get...

[Pain Is A Warning]

if .410 bore is a more powerful version of 12ga, than .357 magnum is a more powerful version of .44 magnum!

It all makes sense.

[Regular Player]

As long as the revolver works good and the sound has that... rawr (which both the Peacemaker and Bronco from PAYDAY 2 lack of it...) then it will be all fine.

[Gunsmith Noob]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Temujin:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sharpshooter 200:

Nabbed from /pdg/

ok WHY would a .357 magnum do more damage and penetrate shields than the .44 magnum? or the .45 colt? what about the desert eagle, now shield penetration for that gun too? this looks worse with every new piece of info we get...

Now, the stats might be placeholders...Overkill knows people looks in the code, and wouldn't be the first time they release some wrong clue

[True Shovelry]

http://i.imgur.com/ngiMW9n.jpg http://i.imgur.com/APGpWJT.jpg - Model 6 Unica
http://i.imgur.com/ZM5syf8.png - Alesso Pistol
Not even a big gun nut, but the hammer on the Alesso pistol looks odd to me.

[Slowpork]

Oprindeligt skrevet af True Shoverly:

http://i.imgur.com/ngiMW9n.jpg http://i.imgur.com/APGpWJT.jpg - Model 6 Unica
http://i.imgur.com/ZM5syf8.png - Alesso Pistol
Not even a big gun nut, but the hammer on the Alesso pistol looks odd to me.

Don't forget that OK uses air soft guns as their prototypes. So some weapons may look different.

[MeltingPotOfFriendship]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Temujin:

because why ask for real life guns in the first place if they work nothing like them? if gun authenticity doesn't matter, or any realism whatsoever, give me BFGs to kill cyberdemons instead. do it right or go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. everything else in FPSs just results in utter boredom.

This is true. But sometimes games have to be careful not to blur the line too much between fantasy and reality when it comes to certain aspects. Me personally, I'm just tired of the enemies magic bullets.

Oprindeligt skrevet af xXxMLG( ͡Δ ͜ʖ ͡Δ)xXx:

fun fact:
there is no such thing as a bernetti 9 IRL. They are actually called berettas. and as no-one has brought this up since payday 2 was launched, now isnt a good time to start complaining about names.

That and I don't think overkill could really afford to pay the weapon manufacturers high costs just to have the guns likeness in-game. Lots of companies with games that emphasize firearms are shying away from that these days.

[Malidictus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Temujin:

because why ask for real life guns in the first place if they work nothing like them? if gun authenticity doesn't matter, or any realism whatsoever, give me BFGs to kill cyberdemons instead. do it right or go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. everything else in FPSs just results in utter boredom.

Because real guns look cool. I'm interested in the appearance and sound of the gun, not its actual authenticity. It IS a false dichotomy, because there's plenty of middle ground between real-world gun replicas and sci-fi weapons. Look at TitanFall - most of its infantry firearms look and behave like contemporary guns in general and are probably modeled on some of them, but they're not a precise match for any of them.

Or, for a better example, look at Battlefield 2142. That game uses fictional weapons, but all of them fire bullets and behave like contemporary rifles, pistols and shotguns. The PAC sidearm is even a modded-up revolver.

You need look no farther than off-brand racing games. They have cars which sort of look like existing super cars but can't resemble them TOO closely since they don't own the licenses for those vehicles. Why do you think there are so many versions of the fictional Zimos company of cars running around Saints Row 3? It's not because of the game's wackiness, since they look exactly like real-world cars to someone who doesn't know much about real-world cars.

I need cool guns which look like they could be contemporary firearms. I don't need guns which match up to actual existing weapons. I haven't the slightest idea how the Pancor Jackhammer actually works, but I still want to see "it" in the game. If the gun looks roughly like the Google image search pics, then I'll be perfectly happy and none the wiser as to how accurate it is to the real deal.

[MeltingPotOfFriendship]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Slowpork:

Oprindeligt skrevet af True Shoverly:

http://i.imgur.com/ngiMW9n.jpg http://i.imgur.com/APGpWJT.jpg - Model 6 Unica
http://i.imgur.com/ZM5syf8.png - Alesso Pistol
Not even a big gun nut, but the hammer on the Alesso pistol looks odd to me.

Don't forget that OK uses air soft guns as their prototypes. So some weapons may look different.

Depending on the gun manufacturer. The highest quality air soft weapons(usually the ones bearing the license) are spitting images of their IRL counterparts,

[Klokw3rk]

so basically its a semi automatic revolver

IRL revolvers are reliable and don't jam as often due to the lack of gas parts so this gun is basically completely pointless in its own existance due to it being a low capacity slow firing slow reloading pistol with no advantage over a modern slide magazine design

and thats why i love it

[Ћ Abomination Jones]

Was talking to Karl, the stats 'may be' tweaked before final release.

[Pain Is A Warning]

Oprindeligt skrevet af klokw3rk:

so basically its a semi automatic revolver

IRL revolvers are reliable and don't jam as often due to the lack of gas parts so this gun is basically completely pointless in its own existance due to it being a low capacity slow firing slow reloading pistol with no advantage over a modern slide magazine design

and thats why i love it

It's a normal revolver.
Not automatic.
Not semi-automatic.

[Wayz]

Im not sure why this has penetration,
Here's a redneck intermediate barrier penetration test with 22LR, 32ACP, 380ACP, 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i22-nMxnHrE

All fail vs a frying pan but the 40S&W and the 9MM. Speed kills not power.
by this test the 9mm sidearms should have a chance of penetration and the larger rounds should do good dmg vs Unarmoured AI