what skill/deck set for a sniper-focused character?

[Thirsty]

just started this weekend and i'm totally clueless about which skill perks and deck set to pick...i'm mainly enjoy sniping in most games so looking for any advice/help about what sorta build to go for(a link to a good sniper build guide would be awesome)

btw i got the gage sniper perk and i'm wondering is the sniper is ww2 pack any good...kinda like ww2 weapons :D (btw any other interesting dlcs to get before sale ends?)

[ninja crouton]

The Nagant is the best sniper because you can make a dodge build with it

[bitter・little・sweetie.]

You absolutely need Kilmer for one.
I also recommend the sharpshooter perk (technician tree), but as a player whose main weapon are sniper rifles I do not use Sharpshooter myself. I'd suppose that the only real core skill you need as a sniper is Kilmer. Maybe Spotter since the Theia scope helps you mark.

You could also go for a shotgun-sniper build in which case get flashbang resistance and Shotgun CQB + Shotgun Impact.

[Nothing.]

I don't think I've really ever heard of a dedicated sniper rifle build. They work fine with very few skills to be honest, but I suppose if you absolutely wanted certain skill boosts, you could use them. Although, you'd probably also be effective using assault rifles too, since certain skills that affect sniper rifles also tweak assault rifles.

[Thirsty]

Origineel geplaatst door Nothing.:

I don't think I've really ever heard of a dedicated sniper rifle build. They work fine with very few skills to be honest, but I suppose if you absolutely wanted certain skill boosts, you could use them. Although, you'd probably also be effective using assault rifles too, since skills that affect sniper rifles also tweak assault rifles.

was kinda thinking that myself after reading the skills last night...so is there a generic build that everyone follows?

[bitter・little・sweetie.]

Origineel geplaatst door Krishal:

Origineel geplaatst door Nothing.:

I don't think I've really ever heard of a dedicated sniper rifle build. They work fine with very few skills to be honest, but I suppose if you absolutely wanted certain skill boosts, you could use them. Although, you'd probably also be effective using assault rifles too, since skills that affect sniper rifles also tweak assault rifles.

was kinda thinking that myself after reading the skills last night...so is there a generic build that everyone follows?

I never really "snipe" per se. I just use my sniper rifle like a single-shot assault rifle that has penetration. I don't even use a Theia - I use either the Solar or Milspec/ACOG.
As a result I tend to swap between a Mk14EBR or any of the sniper rifles most commonly, so my skill-build itself never really changes.
I have a combined mastermind-enforcer build with Inspire, Kilmer and Joker. I also have Shotgun CQB and Shotgun Impact, and Berserker preferrably if going for Death Wish. Fully Loaded also helps a lot.
Besides that I use a Rogue dodge build (I can't tolerate being slow) and alternate between medic bags or ammo bags depending on conditions.

[Mad Matt Dog]

All I did for the past 100 or so hours in my game was use the R93 sniper and the Bronco/Interceptor 45. It was so easy to come out of a heist with the highest accuracy, most kills and most special kills.

This is what I used.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mRSnOLHijEGBcDa:eIEgDa:tgDa:ghiEfgCa:fefCDa:ibcdea:ph0O8b0::w38-20-6-22:s9-17-8-3-1-21-2:a3

The important stuff is the Aced Meds, Aced Inpsire, Aced Gunglisnger, Aced Pistol Messiah and Thick Skin aced. Everything else is pretty much personal prefernce. I like Stun Resitance and Tranporter. Die Hard is also kind of important since if you go down you want to help your team but don't want to waste Pistol Messiah charges.

Origineel geplaatst door bitter・little・sweetie.:

You absolutely need Kilmer for one.
I also recommend the sharpshooter perk (technician tree), but as a player whose main weapon are sniper rifles I do not use Sharpshooter myself. I'd suppose that the only real core skill you need as a sniper is Kilmer. Maybe Spotter since the Theia scope helps you mark.

You could also go for a shotgun-sniper build in which case get flashbang resistance and Shotgun CQB + Shotgun Impact.

No you don't need Kilmer. I did almost all my Sniper time without it. You can spend those 4 points where you like. Basic is useful yes, but aced is not.

On a side note the build I linked works very well with assault rifles which will make better use of Kilmer. What I used to do was if there was already 1 or more snipers on my team I'd use the Commando 553 and the Bronco.

[Thirsty]

lol i know what u guys mean...i was dropping police/swats like crazy last night while my whole team was staring at me xD

[Thirsty]

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Matt Dog:

All I did for the past 100 or so hours in my game was use the R93 sniper and the Bronco. It was so easy to come out of a heist with the highest accuracy, most kills and most special kills.

This is what I used. The important stuff is the Aced Meds, Aced Inpsire, Aced Gunglisnger, Aced Pistol Messiah and Thick Skin aced. Everything else is pretty much personal prefernce. I like Stun Resitance and Tranporter. Die Hard is also kind of important since if you go down you want to help your team but don't want to waste Pistol Messiah charges.

isn't ammo bags better since you run out of ammo so quick due to limitless amount of police/swats?

and lol is that 75 dmg pistol good? if it can one shot enemies then i'm definately getting after it i make a lil bit more cash

[Nothing.]

Origineel geplaatst door Krishal:

Origineel geplaatst door Nothing.:

I don't think I've really ever heard of a dedicated sniper rifle build. They work fine with very few skills to be honest, but I suppose if you absolutely wanted certain skill boosts, you could use them. Although, you'd probably also be effective using assault rifles too, since skills that affect sniper rifles also tweak assault rifles.

was kinda thinking that myself after reading the skills last night...so is there a generic build that everyone follows?

I don't think there is a 'generic' build exactly, but I think what's most important if you're going to be using a sniper rifle as a primary weapon is setting up your skills so that you have a backup, as sniper rifles are powerful, but vulnerable weapons too.

In all honesty, unless you're using the rattlesnake, your sniper rifle isn't going to be a primary source of kills. Anything above the rattlesnake is a primarily anti-special unit tool. The R93 in particular bulldozes special units, and it makes short work of shields. It's a killing machine, but the real genocide machine is my secondary shotgun.

I've built my skills so that I have enforcers skills backing my shotgun of choice (Judge), so that when I'm surrounded by way too many enemies my sniper rifle can't handle, I'm packing something really strong to clear crowds around me. But perhaps most importantly for me, is that I use the rogue perk deck for the fast-weapon-switch. The fast weapon switch ensures that I'll rarely ever be caught off guard with a long sniper reload, or if I suddenly come face-to-face with a shield, I can simply switch to my sniper rifle, and blow through him without any troubles.

[bitter・little・sweetie.]

This is all personal preference but if you have the mods for it you might want to opt for the Desert Eagle which is more flexible than the Taurus (Bronco), while still being able to one-shot most common enemies.

Normally if I'm using a pistolmind build though and I want to have a pistol as a secondary I much rather use the SIG P226 (Signature) or M1911 (crosskill), since both have a more controlled firing and large mag mod/bigger ammo pool while still reaching the vital 40/18. Also I guess it's just me but I find the DEagle harder to aim with.

[Mad Matt Dog]

Origineel geplaatst door Krishal:

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Matt Dog:

All I did for the past 100 or so hours in my game was use the R93 sniper and the Bronco. It was so easy to come out of a heist with the highest accuracy, most kills and most special kills.

This is what I used. The important stuff is the Aced Meds, Aced Inpsire, Aced Gunglisnger, Aced Pistol Messiah and Thick Skin aced. Everything else is pretty much personal prefernce. I like Stun Resitance and Tranporter. Die Hard is also kind of important since if you go down you want to help your team but don't want to waste Pistol Messiah charges.

isn't ammo bags better since you run out of ammo so quick due to limitless amount of police/swats?

and lol is that 75 dmg pistol good? if it can one shot enemies then i'm definately getting after it i make a lil bit more cash

I don't like Deathwish so all this is based on Overkill and lower:

It does a lot more than 75 with the right mods and Gun Slinger. It hits over 100, so it will 1 shot regular cops and 2 shot specials. Ammo bags are not better than meds because you don't need ammo with the R93 and Bronco. You kill everything in 1 hit with the 93R, so you use 1 bullet and get 1 bullet back. You 1 hit regular cops with the Bronco so you use 1 bullet and get 1 back. You get 1 bullet back for both weapons. Use the 93R to murder everything then use the Bronco to kill regular cops and get all your ammo back. Ther 93R will work in close quarters if you need it so you can chop and change depending on how you feel.

Origineel geplaatst door bitter・little・sweetie.:

This is all personal preference but if you have the mods for it you might want to opt for the Desert Eagle which is more flexible than the Taurus (Bronco), while still being able to one-shot most common enemies.

Normally if I'm using a pistolmind build though and I want to have a pistol as a secondary I much rather use the SIG P226 (Signature) or M1911 (crosskill), since both have a more controlled firing and large mag mod/bigger ammo pool while still reaching the vital 40/18. Also I guess it's just me but I find the DEagle harder to aim with.

The Interceptor 45 and Bronco are the best pistols. The Sig 40 is meh, it doesn't hit 50, it hits 49.875 damage and you get way more ammo with the Interceptor 45 and the Crosskill is just flat out bad. The Deagle is really meh, it doesn't hit 100 damage so it wont 1 shot Tans to the head. If you check the numbers on pd2skills.com you will see the

[bitter・little・sweetie.]

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Matt Dog:

Origineel geplaatst door bitter・little・sweetie.:

This is all personal preference but if you have the mods for it you might want to opt for the Desert Eagle which is more flexible than the Taurus (Bronco), while still being able to one-shot most common enemies.

Normally if I'm using a pistolmind build though and I want to have a pistol as a secondary I much rather use the SIG P226 (Signature) or M1911 (crosskill), since both have a more controlled firing and large mag mod/bigger ammo pool while still reaching the vital 40/18. Also I guess it's just me but I find the DEagle harder to aim with.

The Interceptor 45 and Bronco are the best pistols. The Sig 40 is ok but you get way more ammo with the Interceptor 45 and the Crosskill is just flat out bad. The Deagle is really meh, it doesn't hit 100 damage so it wont 1 shot Tans to the head(99.75 according to pd2skills.com)

On Overkill, I think you only need about 85 damage to one-shot tans on the head, due to the Helmet Popping perk in the decks.
I prefer the Sig over the USP (interceptor) due to the slightly higher damage. Or, well, it's just preference really, and I never really run out of ammo with pistols. And the little extra damage makes a difference on Bulldozers.
The Crosskill is awful because of its lack of ammo pool but other than that it reaches the 45/18 mark with good stability. But at this point due to Walk-In Closet ammo pool is not a big problem for me unless it's Death Wish.

We all have our preferences and lately I like using the Mk14EBR even though objectively its absolutely useless compared to a MSR. Um, I mean Rattlesnake.

[Thirsty]

i think i'll go with bronco cause i love revolvers especially those old ones that shoot magnum rounds :D

btw ty for the wealth of information in such short time...this game seems like it has a quite active multiplayer community!

[Thirsty]

btw which deck should i get?

[bitter・little・sweetie.]

Origineel geplaatst door Krishal:

i think i'll go with bronco cause i love revolvers especially those old ones that shoot magnum rounds :D

btw ty for the wealth of information in such short time...this game seems like it has a quite active multiplayer community!

Sure. Use what you like. I used to think the Ak5 and AUG were plenty useless but even then I've lately started toying with other guns. Objectively speaking I have no reason to want to use battle/designated-marksman rifles instead of my usual sniper rifles (no penetration), but I've found it lots of fun to take it one-click-at-a-time or run behind shields instead of the usual strafing and lining up multi-kills with a sniper rifle (or shield-shooting).
Either way my KPM/DPS is almost similar with both, so it's just use what you enjoy, but of course try to find a balance of what you enjoy and what's actually useful. (e.g. I don't use my Ak5 above V.Hard).

Origineel geplaatst door Krishal:

btw which deck set to go for?

Rogue if you want to be dodge build of course. If you're going shotgun secondary you might like Jacket's sociopath deck if you can access it.
Doesn't really matter what you use, to be honest. Just pick a Deck that suits the rest of your skills. E.g. if you're set up with an ICTV you might be best using Armorer.