Anyone else feel we have enough "psychopath" character types?

[Skipper]

I mean, the first one was Wolf. Normal guy who turned nuts after his company hit the floor. Then came Clover who is mindly obsessed and enjoys robbing banks and killing cops while laughing the whole time. Then came Jacket who just kills people cause a phone tells him to.

I liked Payday's lore because every heister had a nice backstory and not a copy-paste PSYCHOPATH TURNING INTO BANK HEISTER storyline.

Dallas was a criminal mastermind all his life and taking things seriously.

Chains a soldier turned into a mercenary cause he didn't like to get ordered around ( funny enough, Bain is doing it in a way)

Houston is Dallas brother who can't keep a normal job and needs money and lives on the high
edge, thinking life's easy.

Hoxton was an sarcastic, funny English boy who kept raising his criminal ambitions since he was a kid until he stuck with robbery and heists.

Wolf was , as said, a very intelligent man who owned a software company before things got worse for him and he went broke, having psychological brakedowns, leaving his family to make money in other ways he seems to be more fair for him. ( We don't even know IF Wolf stays with the Payday gang to support his family from afar ).
He "enjoys" his job because of his psychological disorder, not because he is a psychopath by nature.

John Wick ( YES, I LIKE JOHN WICK) a former Hitman who got back into the job after.... watch the movie...... and got recruited by Chains , which in my eyes is more than a legit connection since BOTH have extreme soldier training and experiences, therefore possibly knowing each other from their former army/military squads.

Dragan is a corrupt cop from Croatia which works for one of the contractors of Crime.net.
He doesn't have a deep story, but still he seems to be "normal" in his mind. Except for heisting banks of course.


But then come Clover, Bonnie,Jacket. 3 chicks ( hue hue hue ) who randomly decide: "YA WELL I JUST LIKE KILLING PEOPLE AND ROBBING ♥♥♥♥ SO I AM ENJOYING THIS JOB" and get accepted by Bain in the crew.
Really? You just randomly accept 3 characters into the crew who have NO professional experience to work in teams and put them into the biggest heist crew of all time ( fictionally speaking) where you let them loose and don't even know if they wil stick with them or give them out to the FBI once they have no more use for the Payday-Gang and Bain?


I know I am overreacting, but I really find Payday's lore to be exceptionally interesting and fine it absurd when so many random things get added without a connection to the general plot.
I would like to have a Payday book or something, the movie MIGHT be good, but after I watched the Web Series which only was used as promotional content, I hope they do something in the direction of The Dentist,Hox Breakout or The Butcher trailers.

[Magpie]

I agree with you, they should get rid of Clover.

[Silberfuchs]

I think it's time for a cold, professional German heister. Yup.

[woskis9161]

I too would like to see more pros incoming. Bonnie was jailed so she's pretty much already a no-no.

[Grahf]

Didnt think these ppl were psychopath's just bank robbers not compared to some other games like Hatred lol

[woskis9161]

Originally posted by Tasty Possom Spine:

Didnt think these ppl were psychopath's just bank robbers not compared to some other games like Hatred lol

Not Important (that's the dudes name) is just 100% psychopath.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by Wolf:

But then come Clover, Bonnie,Jacket. 3 chicks ( hue hue hue ) who randomly decide: "YA WELL I JUST LIKE KILLING PEOPLE AND ROBBING ♥♥♥♥ SO I AM ENJOYING THIS JOB" and get accepted by Bain in the crew.
Really? You just randomly accept 3 characters into the crew who have NO professional experience to work in teams and put them into the biggest heist crew of all time ( fictionally speaking) where you let them loose and don't even know if they wil stick with them or give them out to the FBI once they have no more use for the Payday-Gang and Bain?

I can't agree to this though. So only because they are women their start into the robbing business is somehow different than that of the others? The initial crew has not been born as professional criminals, nor have the other characters. Everyone has to be introduced into the business somehow, and you can bet even Dallas, Hoxton and Wolf started out as beginners who were only taken for "looking promising". Chains has a military training after all, but still he had to be introduced into heisting which is different on many levels.

But only because Clover and Bonnie are women it turns to "I suddenly decide to rob banks and kill people"? Or why else is the start of a heister career different for them than for the rest?

[Ashe]

Wick is kinda the same. His connection to the payday universe is solely through 'knowing one of the gang' and heading in.

Clover has links to Hoxton and Bonnie is apparently connected to one of the crew as told by Almir in the AMA.

[Empress Misery]

Originally posted by Woskis:

I too would like to see more pros incoming. Bonnie was jailed so she's pretty much already a no-no.

Clover and Bonnie are both failed Heisters. Just Clover had useful information and wasn't in jail for as long as Bonnie apparently was.

[woskis9161]

Originally posted by Empress Misery:

Originally posted by Woskis:

I too would like to see more pros incoming. Bonnie was jailed so she's pretty much already a no-no.

Clover and Bonnie are both failed Heisters. Just Clover had useful information and wasn't in jail for as long as Bonnie apparently was.

Clover isn't really a failed heister. She wasn't in jail too IIRC. She betrayed Hoxton. We don't have the full backstory for Bonnie, but we know she was in Jail once.

[DeusEstMachina]

Originally posted by Empress Misery:

Originally posted by Woskis:

I too would like to see more pros incoming. Bonnie was jailed so she's pretty much already a no-no.

Clover and Bonnie are both failed Heisters. Just Clover had useful information and wasn't in jail for as long as Bonnie apparently was.

Being jailed makes someone a "failed" heister? By that definition, Hoxton is a "failure" too.

[woskis9161]

Originally posted by Deus Est Machina:

Originally posted by Empress Misery:

Clover and Bonnie are both failed Heisters. Just Clover had useful information and wasn't in jail for as long as Bonnie apparently was.

Being jailed makes someone a "failed" heister? By that definition, Hoxton is a "failure" too.

Good point.

[Grahf]

These ppl just be your ordinary bank heisters lol

[Alan]

Chains is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sailor, not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ soldier.

[Hooded Husky]

Technically in my book they're all mentally broken in some way, shape, or form like ♥♥♥♥ dude they kill people and feel happy about it

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by Slippin' Jimmy:

Chains is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sailor, not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ soldier.

U.S. Marines are not part of the Navy from what I know, the USMC is a special and unique branch of the US military. Same as with the Coast Guard, which isn't part of the Navy, either.