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OKMB Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:26pm
Question: Why is the G3 so terrible?
Trying out the G3, and it's really really bad. I mean, what idiot thought it was a good idea to make an achievement to kill 25 of the stronget enemy in game with one of the worst primarys in game (not counting GL-40).
What are your guys opinion on the G3? Is it as bad for you guys as it is for me?
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Clokr Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:27pm 
With the right mods its boss
OKMB Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Cheesy Mc DoddleSon:
With the right mods its boss
Yes, but what mods? I mean, I just finished Unusual Suspects (which requires that 25 Bulldozers be killed with the G3, again, a stupid decision), and I still can't make this thing into a proper DMR.
Ashley Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:34pm 
The G3 needs a serious buff, it is poor in pretty much every way possible when you compare it to the Eagle rifle. When turned into the DMR the ammo return is just silly, 1 bullet per box which when you have fully loaded aced is half or even more then the 308 and rattlesnake. Both of which deal more damage and better accuracy.

The mods are too negative in many aspects, making the balanced version of the gun too poor compared to other guns. It needs a larger ammo pools and a large magazine for the assault version, the sniper version needs a ammo return increase and the normal version needs a damage boost if it will ever compete with other guns that play the same role as what you turn the g3 into.

Same applies to the falcon rifle which also needs a serious buff.
Mataza Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:42pm 
The only bad part about the DMR version is the low ammo return and the kinda slow reload.
Except for that I got it to same accuracy damage and stability as M308.

The basic or assault version feel pretty bad though. Good accuracy, but quite bad stability. Assault kit doesn't change ammo pickup rate, so all that does is reduce your damage by 1 state and reduce your accuracy by 4. For 4 accuracy you can just slap on a funnel of fun and get imho a much better gun, except for a bit less total ammo(without suffering ammo pickuprate).

With the right mods its 1337 ;)
Kokoswasser Sep 21, 2014 @ 3:59pm 
Well i play with the Mod that give this beast +47 DMG and it's awesome, with the Enforcer skill that you get 25% more ammo with you, it has 60 Bullets total. That are like around 6 magazine's (One in the Rifle, five for reloading), so it's not worser than some rifle's.

P.S.
You can easily "farm" Bulldozer's. Open Mallcrasher on Deathwish. Go to the "Pear Store" and camp there. I prefer to play with friends, one of you take the grenade launcher with you. Two shots at a Bulldozer and then the other one with the G3 take him down.
Oh and you, or the guy with the grenade launcher, need a lot of ammo.
Easily farmed ^^
Leg of an Table Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:27pm 

Originally posted by Delta:
with one of the worst primarys in game (not counting GL-40).

Why does everyone hate on the GL-40? It's not that bad actually. Fully Loaded aced easily deals witht the ammo issue.

For the G3 however... It does need some help.
SCamp Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:34pm 
If you want the dozer achieve, you could solo Rats Day 1 on Overkill with bots. Camp the upper floor with bots (board up the back room). Do it as an MM-Enforcer (medkits, joker, Fully Loaded ace).

Takes about 1.5-2 hours.
Last edited by SCamp; Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:34pm
Grizzle McSizzle Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:37pm 
You don't have the right skills and/or mods. My assault kit G3 has more ammo than my AMR at the cost of slightly less stability, and everything else is practically the same.

My DMR kit G3 is almost exactly the same as the M308 but with more ammo and maybe a bit less accuracy.
knusperKeks Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:40pm 
The GL-40 isnt meant to be a " Fully Kitted Assault Weapon" its meant to play a Supportive Role in Crow Control ( Stunning Dozers and Shields ) and wiping out groups of normal Law Enforcers in close Areas. - BTT: The G3 , needs a Buff on the Ammo Capacity by atleast 20-30 Rounds in total , to make it anywhere Competitive to the M308.
NaIM Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:40pm 
For me it felt a lot like Eagle or Falcon. I don't really like these rifles, so I stopped using this one after I got all the achievements with it.
SCamp Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by Grizzle McSizzle:
You don't have the right skills and/or mods. My assault kit G3 has more ammo than my AMR at the cost of slightly less stability, and everything else is practically the same.

My DMR kit G3 is almost exactly the same as the M308 but with more ammo and maybe a bit less accuracy.
The dealbreaker on the gun is Fully Loaded ace doesn't work with the Assault/DMR kits due to the max ammo being changed with those mods.
Reload aside, G3 is pretty much a staple gun of mine now. 50 damage, stability so freakin' high my shots barely recoil, I can just swing around with the laser sight on and pop heads everywhere. Don't even want the Assault/DMR kits.
Last edited by Ћ Abomination Jones; Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:42pm
Grizzle McSizzle Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by SCamp:
Originally posted by Grizzle McSizzle:
You don't have the right skills and/or mods. My assault kit G3 has more ammo than my AMR at the cost of slightly less stability, and everything else is practically the same.

My DMR kit G3 is almost exactly the same as the M308 but with more ammo and maybe a bit less accuracy.
The dealbreaker on the gun is Fully Loaded ace doesn't work with the Assault/DMR kits due to the max ammo being changed with those mods.

Yeah, but there are ways to change that. After "fixing" that I can say the G3 is as good or maybe even better than the M308, so I can see why Overkill decided to do what they did. But I think there is probably a more balanced solution they can find.
Last edited by Grizzle McSizzle; Sep 21, 2014 @ 7:44pm
I'm not sure what your issue is, mine's always treated me good, and I have no issue putting down bulldozers with a full mag to their faces. It's become my go-to gun for everything now.
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