Why are there too many cheaters these days?

[SiegfraTithe]

I have noticed that every 2 out of 30 players have a cheat, whether it is an unlocker, silent assassin, a trainer or any cheat, and every time I ban a cheater from my lobby, a new one always comes in and the cycle repeats itself.

Even players of infamy 1 use cheats, a few days ago I had to ban a cheater from my lobby and he commented twice on my profile saying that he would instantly kick any user, something that is not the case and that I only kick if my anticheat detects any trap

Why the hell are there too many cheaters? Not even in 2014 were there cheaters like now

[Blockhead]

Game is cheaper than it ever has been, occasionally it's been free; and of course more time has passed to allow for the development of mods and cheats. Coupled with the extremely grindy nature of the game and no repercussions for cheating (only hosts can ban players, there's no global ban system) it's a game where it's very easy to cheat with basically no drawbacks.

As a quick disclaimer, I don't and have never used mods of any kind.

[Insomnia]

Cheats are so easily accessible that someone with a peanut for a brain can figure out how to install some.
They're always the exact same people too. If you call them out for cheating, they just reply with "?". Or they say that they're mods, not cheats. That one's absolutely hilarious. Makes me wonder how dumb these people actually are.

[TheSmith ubec.hu]

Because, the game is only enjoyable like this. A few years ago i had 900 hours on epic games, i played a lot but after a while it became so boring doing the same heists that cheaiting is much more fun

[az0id]

Originally posted by Robi1rk:

Because, the game is only enjoyable like this. A few years ago i had 900 hours on epic games, i played a lot but after a while it became so boring doing the same heists that cheaiting is much more fun

hope you get banned!!!!

[Ɛ: ʎɥɔʇɐԀ]

Originally posted by Robi1rk:

a user's personal opinion, contents of which are not liked by some communities

Have you ever tried doing challenges? Such as playing without AI Team?
Because well, doing no AI challenges has made me better, since I can perfectly rely on myself, and even "recover" The team if spawnpoint RNG decides to spam dozers (or... At least do not go down... Without putting a proper fight!)

Or maybe just using different tracks on heists? Because you know, something as simple as changing music track (for example, swapping razormind for PDTH soundtrack, or using modded music tracks) is nice if you're getting bored of same tracks playing on same heists

Another thing you can do... Is just play on lower difficulties! Nothing is more fun than going on Death Wish after spending majority of your time playing on Death Sentence. really calming and refreshing for me... Or just play on normal to take away some of your frustration from struggling on lower difficulties on these blue SWAT units!

And, last one... Experimenting with builds! While I mostly prefer running copycat with biker card and 2 shot ICTV, there are definitely some combos I run every once in a while, such as:
Pistol + GL on CopyBurglar - not really that unique, but can be quite fun to run, especially after you realize that GL40 can reach up to 27 concealment. Mainly to make fun of old meta (which is actually quite effective), same applies to the light crossbow + GL combo on CopyBurglar too.
CopyCrewChief 2 shot CTV/Health - found out about this one while messing with breakpoints, and, despite the fact that I can't do any drama abuse, being able to survive an additional shot to health while being under frenzy health percentage is always nice to have.
CopyGrinder dodge - plays similar to Ex-president, where all the dodge is not really important since you'll be relying on armor gating and cover much more. However, that small dodge percentage can save you every once in a while, and thanks to 2 secs of godmode... You can go through short open sections without any issues.

[P1nkLem0n4d3]

Originally posted by 76561199364996193:

Originally posted by Robi1rk:

a user's personal opinion, contents of which are not liked by some communities

Have you ever tried doing challenges? Such as playing without AI Team?
Because well, doing no AI challenges has made me better, since I can perfectly rely on myself, and even "recover" The team if spawnpoint RNG decides to spam dozers (or... At least do not go down... Without putting a proper fight!)

Or maybe just using different tracks on heists? Because you know, something as simple as changing music track (for example, swapping razormind for PDTH soundtrack, or using modded music tracks) is nice if you're getting bored of same tracks playing on same heists

Another thing you can do... Is just play on lower difficulties! Nothing is more fun than going on Death Wish after spending majority of your time playing on Death Sentence. really calming and refreshing for me... Or just play on normal to take away some of your frustration from struggling on lower difficulties on these blue SWAT units!

And, last one... Experimenting with builds! While I mostly prefer running copycat with biker card and 2 shot ICTV, there are definitely some combos I run every once in a while, such as:
Pistol + GL on CopyBurglar - not really that unique, but can be quite fun to run, especially after you realize that GL40 can reach up to 27 concealment. Mainly to make fun of old meta (which is actually quite effective), same applies to the light crossbow + GL combo on CopyBurglar too.
CopyCrewChief 2 shot CTV/Health - found out about this one while messing with breakpoints, and, despite the fact that I can't do any drama abuse, being able to survive an additional shot to health while being under frenzy health percentage is always nice to have.
CopyGrinder dodge - plays similar to Ex-president, where all the dodge is not really important since you'll be relying on armor gating and cover much more. However, that small dodge percentage can save you every once in a while, and thanks to 2 secs of godmode... You can go through short open sections without any issues.

RNG manipulation should be considered a cheat, but I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't talking about, just using a different looking HUD(that doesn't provide additional info), a different song, an extra loadout slot or something.

I don't like it either, especially when people make comments acting like they don't do it themselves either in the game or on steam, and then presume to act and hide behind a facade that they know everything about the game or that everything that they say is liquid gold.

[Ɛ: ʎɥɔʇɐԀ]

Originally posted by P1nkLem0n4d3:

Originally posted by 76561199364996193:

Have you ever tried doing challenges? Such as playing without AI Team?
Because well, doing no AI challenges has made me better, since I can perfectly rely on myself, and even "recover" The team if spawnpoint RNG decides to spam dozers (or... At least do not go down... Without putting a proper fight!)

Or maybe just using different tracks on heists? Because you know, something as simple as changing music track (for example, swapping razormind for PDTH soundtrack, or using modded music tracks) is nice if you're getting bored of same tracks playing on same heists

Another thing you can do... Is just play on lower difficulties! Nothing is more fun than going on Death Wish after spending majority of your time playing on Death Sentence. really calming and refreshing for me... Or just play on normal to take away some of your frustration from struggling on lower difficulties on these blue SWAT units!

And, last one... Experimenting with builds! While I mostly prefer running copycat with biker card and 2 shot ICTV, there are definitely some combos I run every once in a while, such as:
Pistol + GL on CopyBurglar - not really that unique, but can be quite fun to run, especially after you realize that GL40 can reach up to 27 concealment. Mainly to make fun of old meta (which is actually quite effective), same applies to the light crossbow + GL combo on CopyBurglar too.
CopyCrewChief 2 shot CTV/Health - found out about this one while messing with breakpoints, and, despite the fact that I can't do any drama abuse, being able to survive an additional shot to health while being under frenzy health percentage is always nice to have.
CopyGrinder dodge - plays similar to Ex-president, where all the dodge is not really important since you'll be relying on armor gating and cover much more. However, that small dodge percentage can save you every once in a while, and thanks to 2 secs of godmode... You can go through short open sections without any issues.

RNG manipulation should be considered a cheat

mfs who use RNG modifier on everything are too lazy to follow the rule of "Gambling addicts quit right before they about to hit it big"

[SiegfraTithe]

Originally posted by P1nkLem0n4d3:

Originally posted by 76561199364996193:

Have you ever tried doing challenges? Such as playing without AI Team?
Because well, doing no AI challenges has made me better, since I can perfectly rely on myself, and even "recover" The team if spawnpoint RNG decides to spam dozers (or... At least do not go down... Without putting a proper fight!)

Or maybe just using different tracks on heists? Because you know, something as simple as changing music track (for example, swapping razormind for PDTH soundtrack, or using modded music tracks) is nice if you're getting bored of same tracks playing on same heists

Another thing you can do... Is just play on lower difficulties! Nothing is more fun than going on Death Wish after spending majority of your time playing on Death Sentence. really calming and refreshing for me... Or just play on normal to take away some of your frustration from struggling on lower difficulties on these blue SWAT units!

And, last one... Experimenting with builds! While I mostly prefer running copycat with biker card and 2 shot ICTV, there are definitely some combos I run every once in a while, such as:
Pistol + GL on CopyBurglar - not really that unique, but can be quite fun to run, especially after you realize that GL40 can reach up to 27 concealment. Mainly to make fun of old meta (which is actually quite effective), same applies to the light crossbow + GL combo on CopyBurglar too.
CopyCrewChief 2 shot CTV/Health - found out about this one while messing with breakpoints, and, despite the fact that I can't do any drama abuse, being able to survive an additional shot to health while being under frenzy health percentage is always nice to have.
CopyGrinder dodge - plays similar to Ex-president, where all the dodge is not really important since you'll be relying on armor gating and cover much more. However, that small dodge percentage can save you every once in a while, and thanks to 2 secs of godmode... You can go through short open sections without any issues.

RNG manipulation should be considered a cheat, but I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't talking about, just using a different looking HUD(that doesn't provide additional info), a different song, an extra loadout slot or something.

I don't like it either, especially when people make comments acting like they don't do it themselves either in the game or on steam, and then presume to act and hide behind a facade that they know everything about the game or that everything that they say is liquid gold.

I use the RNG since I don't like the variation of the classic maps like the FWB where the entrance to the vault is on the right side and not the left side like in PDTH (almost all the classic maps I have changed without many changes like the randomization of the objective spawns, for example the taxman from undercover) I also use it to have the escape from the boat in scarface mansion or the exclusive variants of some maps like brooklyn 10-10 where the van appears without having to eat the police cars, although I don't have 100% of the maps modified with the RNG

Even so, I don't consider the huds to be cheats since 98% of the moddig on PC of some game will always have a hud mod, I was only referring to the generic cheaters such as the dlc unlocker, silent assassin and meth helper, ultimate trainers or menus cheat and a long ETC

[P1nkLem0n4d3]

The only time I would consider custom HUDs cheats is if they show info that the player doesn't normally have access too. If it's just a reskin of the HUD, its fair game.

I think when it comes to RNG manipulation, it can be used in an unfair manner to where you can do the easiest version of a heist, and practice that specific version of a heist, over and over again, in a way that would otherwise be impossible, for the sake of greatly reducing the time it takes with full RNG odds along with the vastly easier learning curve. It's an advantage, and kind of an unfair one, in comparison to normal play because one could become almost way too good at a single heist this way, but in a way that isn't legitimate.