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KONZENTRATION May 18, 2021 @ 11:14am
Best detection risk for dodge builds?
I have 490 hours and I still don't know what the best detection risk for a dodge build is, I usually just played with detection risk 3. How much detection risk can I have for sneaky bastard?
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May 18, 2021 @ 11:17am 
23 detection risk
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凸( •̀_•́ ) May 18, 2021 @ 11:17am 
just make sure you have 60 dodge. you dont necessecarily need low detection
Streaky May 18, 2021 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Teto:
23
23 is for Crits.

Anyways, SB is a big pointsink, you have to spend tons of points just to get 10% dodge when Duck and Cover aced is already good enough and does the job better than SB. 3 DR is the best for SB iirc.
May 18, 2021 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
Originally posted by Teto:
23
23 is for Crits.

Anyways, SB is a big pointsink, you have to spend tons of points just to get 10% dodge when Duck and Cover aced is already good enough and does the job better than SB. 3 DR is the best for SB iirc.
As far as I know, there is no difference between ace SB and LB

For the basic version SB and LB = 3-4 detection risk = 118-119 concealment
For the ace version SB and LB = 23 detection risk = 105 concealment

concealment = primary+secondary+armor+melee
Last edited by ; May 18, 2021 @ 11:28am
Reps May 18, 2021 @ 11:33am 
cant make a dodge build without sneaky bastard(low detection needed) or rouge...
Streaky May 18, 2021 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Insanity:
cant make a dodge build without sneaky bastard(low detection needed) or rouge...
Sicario and Hacker will always be better than Rogue. SB isn't needed at all, Duck and Cover aced is only needed.
Undefined May 18, 2021 @ 12:00pm 
Detection Rating only matters for Sneaky Bastard.

If you use Sneaky Bastard and want to know, here's a table for Low Blow (which works the same for Sneaky Bastard)

https://payday.fandom.com/wiki/Low_Blow
B〄F Altonator May 18, 2021 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Undefined:
Detection Rating only matters for Sneaky Bastard.
Pretty much this. However the higher detection you have, the more cops will target you. Yes, this is indeed a thing. Also threat level on your weapons determines how often cops will shoot at you.
This is why optical illusions is a good idea for a dodge build.

Edit: Also adding suppressors to your guns is a good idea as loud guns make cops aware of who shot them.
Last edited by B〄F Altonator; May 18, 2021 @ 12:27pm
B〄F Altonator May 18, 2021 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
Originally posted by Teto:
23
23 is for Crits.

Anyways, SB is a big pointsink, you have to spend tons of points just to get 10% dodge when Duck and Cover aced is already good enough and does the job better than SB. 3 DR is the best for SB iirc.
Getting even more dodge chance doesn't hurt. You will want to maximise dodge chance as much as possible if you are solely relying on it.
Streaky May 18, 2021 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by B〄F Altonator:
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
23 is for Crits.

Anyways, SB is a big pointsink, you have to spend tons of points just to get 10% dodge when Duck and Cover aced is already good enough and does the job better than SB. 3 DR is the best for SB iirc.
Getting even more dodge chance doesn't hurt. You will want to maximise dodge chance as much as possible if you are solely relying on it.
Well yeah, but as long as you're using cover, you wouldn't need an extra 10% dodge. Those skillpoints going into SB can be put in different places such as Jokers/Hostage Taker.
B〄F Altonator May 18, 2021 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
Originally posted by B〄F Altonator:
Getting even more dodge chance doesn't hurt. You will want to maximise dodge chance as much as possible if you are solely relying on it.
Well yeah, but as long as you're using cover, you wouldn't need an extra 10% dodge. Those skillpoints going into SB can be put in different places such as Jokers/Hostage Taker.
If you're using cover you wouldn't need dodge in the first place as nothing shoots you behind cover.
Streaky May 18, 2021 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by B〄F Altonator:
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
Well yeah, but as long as you're using cover, you wouldn't need an extra 10% dodge. Those skillpoints going into SB can be put in different places such as Jokers/Hostage Taker.
If you're using cover you wouldn't need dodge in the first place as nothing shoots you behind cover.
Well, dodge is quite nice to have, it's better than nothing. And the benefits Hacker/Sicario give to the team are really good.
B〄F Altonator May 18, 2021 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Metaphysical Retardation:
Originally posted by B〄F Altonator:
If you're using cover you wouldn't need dodge in the first place as nothing shoots you behind cover.
Well, dodge is quite nice to have, it's better than nothing. And the benefits Hacker/Sicario give to the team are really good.
Yes, dodge can help, but if i'm making a dodge build i would want to maximise the dodge chance. Because when not behind cover you can be shot and the higher your dodge chance the less chance that shot will actually hit.
KONZENTRATION May 18, 2021 @ 12:48pm 
my question isnt answered, do i need 3 detection risk for maximum dodge? or is 20 ok? idk
B〄F Altonator May 18, 2021 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Undefined:
Detection Rating only matters for Sneaky Bastard.
Originally posted by Sea Kyle:
my question isnt answered, do i need 3 detection risk for maximum dodge? or is 20 ok? idk
This is your answer
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