Real World Weapon Counterparts

[Mad Matt Dog]

So, after making a thread asking about the real world versions of the new snipers, I figured it might be cool to have a thread that has all the weapons real world names.

EDIT: List has now been filled out. Check it out and tell me if there's still discrepancies.


PAYDAY 2 - Real life counterpart
Assault Rifles:
AMCAR - Colt M733
AK - Izhmash AKS-74
CAR-4 - Colt M4A1
UAR - Steyr AUG A2
AK 7.62 - Izhmash AKMS
JP36 - H&K G36C
M308 - Springfield Armory SOCOM 16/M14 DMR(base is a hybrid)
AK5 - Bofors AK5
AMR 16 - Colt M16A4
Commando 553 - SIG SG 552
Eagle Heavy - FN Herstal SCAR H MK-17

Sniper Rifles:
Rattlesnake - Remington MSR
R93 - Blaser R93
Thanatos - Barrett M95

Shotguns:
Reinfeld 880 - Remington Model 870 MCS
IZHMA 12G - Izhmash Saiga 12K
Mosconi - Original gun by Overkill
Locomotive - Remington Model 870 Short-barrled

LMG's:
RPK - RPK-47 Hyrid
KSP - M249 Para
Brenner 21 - H&K HK 21E

Pistols:
Interceptor 45 - USP .45
Chimano Custom - Glock 22C
Chimano 88 - Glock 17
Crosskill - Springfield Armory 1911 Lightweight Operator
Bernetti 9 - Beretta 92FS Centurion
Bronco .44 - Taurus Raging Bull
Stryk 18c - Glock 18c
Signature .40 - SIG-Sauer P226R
Gruber Kurz - Walther PPK
Deagle - IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX

SMGs:
Mark 10 - Ingram MAC 10
Compact 5 - H&K MP5A2
CMP - Brügger & Thomet TP9-US
Para - Olympic Arms K23B Tactical
Krinkov - (Desinger Unknown) AKMSU
Kobus 90 - FN P90 TR
Swedish K - Carl Gustav M/45 /Kulspruta/Swedish K
SpecOps - H&K MP7A1

That's a lot of guns.

Also here's a list of every version of every gun in the game along with all the versions you can create with attachments: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Payday_2

[DeadMansChest]

So the saw design being from scratch is BS too?

Granted that that wiki excerpt could be worded a lot better, I'm pretty sure the point of that sentence is to say that it's not based on a single preexisting gun like the Chimano 88 (Glock 17) or the Thanatos (M95).

[Mutant1988]

Messaggio originale di Blaire, Lady of The Tree:

Dude, it has a barrel selector AND two triggers. It wouldn't work if it were a real gun. It's clearly not an existing gun. Whoever designed the gun must be the crackhead.

Yeah buddy, whatever you say:

https://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/New_Gun_Details.asp?CI=382&ST=AyA

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/12_Gauge_Double_Barreled_Shotgun

Judging by that, there's actual physical guns that have both those features. Not to mention that some of those guns have nearly identical features to the Mosconi (Even down to the engravings), bar the shape of the grip, with it's sharp angle. (Which is likely designed the way it is as to not require additional animations),

Everything is made using references. Some are made using more than one.

[DeadMansChest]

You could say the Mosconi was designed like the FAL in COD:MW2.

Based off a real gun but not off a specific model of it. A franken-gun is you must.

[Mutant1988]

Messaggio originale di Nein:

You could say the Mosconi was designed like the FAL in COD:MW2.

Based off a real gun but not off a specific model of it. A franken-gun is you must.

Oh, don't even bring up those games in the context of weapon models. Those developers have the laziest modellers ever, along with some truly bizarre design decisions and ridiculously out of place usage.

Why the hell are Russian special forces using Israeli (IMI Tavor) and French (FAMAS) weaponry? Why is the Russian army still using the freaking AK47 in modern times when it was phased out in 1974?

Then again, this is the universe where a war is started with the US over a terrorist attack they've been framed of instigating. Because the United State would attack a civilian target to start a war, right? What the hell is a strategic target anyway?

So ****ing stupid... Absolutely nothing makes any damn sense. Sorry to run off on a tangent like this but that game really annoys me.

Seriously, read and weep:

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_2

[Gunsmith Noob]

Messaggio originale di Blaire, Lady of The Tree:

Messaggio originale di Hukkie:

Not possessing any significant element of any real firearm? What crackhead wrote that?

The Mosconi is your average break-action, side-by-side double-barreled shotgun, and it´s based on a design thats been around for about 250 years.

Claiming to have designed the Mosconi from scratch is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, nothing with their design stray from how these guns have been made in real life for a very long time.

Dude, it has a barrel selector AND two triggers. It wouldn't work if it were a real gun. It's clearly not an existing gun. Whoever designed the gun must be the crackhead.
I mean, yes it's a double barrel shotgun, Overkill didn't invent THAT, but the model and make of the gun is theirs.

The Luparas have 2 triggers and barrel selector.

[Mad Matt Dog]

Messaggio originale di SethOS:

Messaggio originale di Vector88:

There are lots of weapons in game that turn into different weapons depending on the mods attached

There are various MP5 models in game depending on the mods you put on it
MP5A2 (no mods)
MP5A3 (with Collapsable stock mod)
MP5SD2 (with Ninja )
MP5SD3 (with Ninja and collapsable stock)
MP5KN (with bare essentials and short foregrip)


Also, the M308 is a Springfield SOCOM 16, but with a stock of a M14 DMR
If you attach an abraham mod to the M308 it turns into a M1A SOPMOD

AMCAR is a Colt Model 733
Not sure, but it becomes a different model if any sight is attached (because as far as I know, you cannot remove the carry handle on a 733 while in game attaching an optic will remove the handle entirely)

Chimano custom is a Glock 22C
With long slide it will turn into a Glock 35

Interceptor 45 is a HK USP Tactical
With Match slide it becomes a USP Match
With Expert slide it becomes a USP Expert

If OP has any time, we should give him all the other variants that could be created to add to the list

I would of done that but I felt it was nicer just to have the direct base weapon to real weapon comparison. The imfbd has all the variations on it. This thread was just about what the stock weapons were, which is enough for me personally.

[Mad Matt Dog]

So what is the exact base model of the M308? Or is it some kind of hyrid? Theres been quite a bit of discusssion over the model of that gun.

[Bran Mak Morn]

i think it's a hybrid, just like the mark 10 which says it's model 11 and comes in 9mm if you look at the model.

[Love Train]

The rattlesnake is more of an Remington M24 then an MSR

[Hukkie]

Messaggio originale di Blaire, Lady of The Tree:

Messaggio originale di Hukkie:

Not possessing any significant element of any real firearm? What crackhead wrote that?

The Mosconi is your average break-action, side-by-side double-barreled shotgun, and it´s based on a design thats been around for about 250 years.

Claiming to have designed the Mosconi from scratch is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, nothing with their design stray from how these guns have been made in real life for a very long time.

Dude, it has a barrel selector AND two triggers. It wouldn't work if it were a real gun. It's clearly not an existing gun. Whoever designed the gun must be the crackhead.
I mean, yes it's a double barrel shotgun, Overkill didn't invent THAT, but the model and make of the gun is theirs.

Acctually having 2 triggers and each of them triggering 1 barrel does exist. Check out the Ithaca 16 ga double-barrel shotgun (And other Ithaca double-barrels aswell btw).

So it does exist, although shooting both barrels at once is a rather stupid move due to the recoil and also the fact that you can crack the stock doing it.

Now, what about this shotgun of Overkills is so original?

[Mino]

Messaggio originale di Hukkie:

Messaggio originale di Blaire, Lady of The Tree:

Dude, it has a barrel selector AND two triggers. It wouldn't work if it were a real gun. It's clearly not an existing gun. Whoever designed the gun must be the crackhead.
I mean, yes it's a double barrel shotgun, Overkill didn't invent THAT, but the model and make of the gun is theirs.

Acctually having 2 triggers and each of them triggering 1 barrel does exist. Check out the Ithaca 16 ga double-barrel shotgun (And other Ithaca double-barrels aswell btw).

So it does exist, although shooting both barrels at once is a rather stupid move due to the recoil and also the fact that you can crack the stock doing it.

Now, what about this shotgun of Overkills is so original?

I've already given my source.
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/Mosconi_12G

It may look like a preexisting gun, sure. But it doesn't take reference heavily from any one specific model. That's what makes it unique.

[zinfinion]

Messaggio originale di Mad Matt Dog:

So what is the exact base model of the M308? Or is it some kind of hyrid? Theres been quite a bit of discusssion over the model of that gun.

SOCOM 16. The important factor is the 16" barrel length, the furniture is incosequential and can be readily swapped in real life. Regardless of how it is dressed up, since the barrel length remains 16" it remains a SOCOM 16. Had Overkill added a long barrel option then that variation would be a M14.

Here's one that looks nearly identical to the game's: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/M1A.jpg

It's missing the pistol grip and the top of the fore end is different, but the rest of the stock is pretty much spot on.

[Vector88]

Messaggio originale di Mad Matt Dog:

So what is the exact base model of the M308? Or is it some kind of hyrid? Theres been quite a bit of discusssion over the model of that gun.

It's a hybrid of a SOCOM 16 and a M14 DMR

Messaggio originale di Temujin:

i think it's a hybrid, just like the mark 10 which says it's model 11 and comes in 9mm if you look at the model.

Actually it's still a MAC-10

The funny part is that under the rear sight if you inspect the gun, it states it's .45CAL
The lower reciever states that it is 9mm

So it's really a MAC-10 with a .45 upper reciever and a 9mm Lower reciever.
Idk how the gun works in this configuration, but Payday logic ftw

But it isn't a MAC-11 because it would say .380 auto instead of 9mm auto (i think? not sure)

[zinfinion]

Messaggio originale di Vector88:

It's a hybrid of a SOCOM 16 and a M14 DMR

Well considering the SOCOM 16 is derived from the M14 that is true, though the barrel on the M308 in game is pure SOCOM 16 as shown by the integrated muzzle break and the position of the gas block relative to the barrel end.

Had a 18" or 22" barrel with an integrated vortex flash hider been given as an option, then applying that would most definitely make it an M14 EBR.

Another option would be a 22" with the standard flash hider as seen on the plain vanilla M1A/M14.

[Mutant1988]

Messaggio originale di Blaire, Lady of The Tree:

Messaggio originale di Hukkie:

Acctually having 2 triggers and each of them triggering 1 barrel does exist. Check out the Ithaca 16 ga double-barrel shotgun (And other Ithaca double-barrels aswell btw).

So it does exist, although shooting both barrels at once is a rather stupid move due to the recoil and also the fact that you can crack the stock doing it.

Now, what about this shotgun of Overkills is so original?

I've already given my source.
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/Mosconi_12G

It may look like a preexisting gun, sure. But it doesn't take reference heavily from any one specific model. That's what makes it unique.

Because ornaments does an entirely unique weapon system make? That exact configuration of foregrip, barrel selector and double triggers exist. The only differences are the shape of the stock (Which is really only made to re-use the same animations as other angled grips) and the engraving (Of which some of the guns I linked above are VERY similar).