What happened with Hoxhud?

[hayley]

I just bought Payday 2 again after losing my old account after like 5 months of being gone, and I come back and everyone hates hox hud now? Anyone wanna explain why? thanks.

[Stonepaq]

because its bad

[SC]

People that use it are braindead morons that don't know to disable it every time there's a major update then come in and complain about game crashes.

Oh, then there's that whole "Overkill approved" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that made almost everyone in the modding community hate Oli and his goons.

[hayley]

Fair enough. Do any of you recommend a good hud mod?

[SC]

Originally posted by J-MunterChild:

Fair enough. Do any of you recommend a good hud mod?

Pocohud's a good one, just be sure to turn off the chat notifications or set it to "Me only".

[Pawnstar]

Mods in general are looked down upon, and the MAJOR causes of people coming to the forums and crying about how thier games keep crashing after -every- update.

[hayley]

Originally posted by JWL | 伝説の弾幕 TITAN:

Mods in general are looked down upon, and the MAJOR causes of people coming to the forums and crying about how thier games keep crashing after -every- update.

Ah okay, well I disable mods anyway if they crash since that's probably the cause.. But thanks for all the help guys.

[snow33]

People don't like it because they're impatient and can't wait till hox starts working again

[hayley]

Originally posted by SC:

Originally posted by J-MunterChild:

Fair enough. Do any of you recommend a good hud mod?

Pocohud's a good one, just be sure to turn off the chat notifications or set it to "Me only".

Okay, thanks man.

[biodtox]

Well, here it starts again. Long story short.

• Idiots who can't read pinned threads and update notes reminding to disable mods.
  
• Endless debate if it a cheat
  
• Debate how it affects skill and new players
  
• It's anti-cheat is ♥♥♥♥
  
• It likes to crash

[hayley]

Originally posted by biodtox:

Well, here it starts again. Long story short.

• Idiots who can't read pinned threads and update notes reminding to disable mods.
  
• Endless debate if it a cheat
  
• Debate how it affects skill and new players
  
• It's anti-cheat is ♥♥♥♥
  
• It likes to crash

Ah okay. :P

[Ћ Abomination Jones]

There are a myriad of reasons from what I've been hearing and seeing;

1 - HoxHud users blame Overkill / the game for breaking when it is HoxHud's problem 99.99% of the time, leading to a continous flow of threads of people asking why the game is broken, when the mod is what does it. This has lead to an increasing level of general disdain and dislike to users of it, and the mod itself.

2 - It adds features that are pretty much what people consider 'baby mode' or 'crutch', such as exact timers for things you shouldn't be seeing (such as ECMs and cooldowns on certain skills and other factors) and this has also led to people calling others bad at the game for needing the mod

3 - Citation needed, but there are tales of the whole connection to a certain other Payday 2 mod with Oilpro.

4 - The logo replacement 'error' that came up a while ago was not as well-spread, but those who know of it have not exactly been appreciative of the mod since.

5 - The built-in anti-cheat is often "Overkill's fault", see point 1.

[hayley]

Originally posted by Ћ Abomination Jones:

There are a myriad of reasons from what I've been hearing and seeing;

1 - HoxHud users blame Overkill / the game for breaking when it is HoxHud's problem 99.99% of the time, leading to a continous flow of threads of people asking why the game is broken, when the mod is what does it. This has lead to an increasing level of general disdain and dislike to users of it, and the mod itself.

2 - It adds features that are pretty much what people consider 'baby mode' or 'crutch', such as exact timers for things you shouldn't be seeing (such as ECMs and cooldowns on certain skills and other factors) and this has also led to people calling others bad at the game for needing the mod

3 - Citation needed, but there are tales of the whole connection to a certain other Payday 2 mod with Oilpro.

4 - The logo replacement 'error' that came up a while ago was not as well-spread, but those who know of it have not exactly been appreciative of the mod since.

Okay, thanks for explaining it all!

[STLAngel7]

Originally posted by biodtox:

Well, here it starts again. Long story short.

• Idiots who can't read pinned threads and update notes reminding to disable mods.
  
• Endless debate if it a cheat
  
• Debate how it affects skill and new players
  
• It's anti-cheat is ♥♥♥♥
  
• It likes to crash

It deletes bags on new heists making being a client with an HoxHud host a real nightmare (sub point of the anti cheat but felt it needed to be listed)

[Seven]

Originally posted by Ћ Abomination Jones:

3 - Citation needed, but there are tales of the whole connection to a certain other Payday 2 mod with Oilpro.

Is that even a secret? Not that I care; if you're going to argue against HoxHud, that's just about the dumbest reason there is.

[Ћ Abomination Jones]

Originally posted by Seven:

Originally posted by Ћ Abomination Jones:

3 - Citation needed, but there are tales of the whole connection to a certain other Payday 2 mod with Oilpro.

Is that even a secret? Not that I care; if you're going to argue against HoxHud, that's just about the dumbest reason there is.

Yeah, I know it's pretty much outright true, but I'm supposed to be ~unbiased~ or whatever.