Framing The Frame; Day 3

[Grapefruit]

I am having problems with following heist on Day 3. No matter how much I try, I can't complete it on stealthy. Few days ago, couple of guys and I played this heist for an hour or so, and NOTHING.
So, does anyone have any advice, or can even help me beat it, by taking the gold?

[Furrows]

the way to make it easyer is either be good at stealth and have good luck, or ECM rush once you get seen.

[Grapefruit]

Maybe...
Can I kill all the guards, and disable cameras, is that going to work?

[Pyro Fennec]

Admittedly, a lot of it comes down to luck, but you can tip the odds in your favor a little with some tircks and knowledge.

For example: FF day 3 is one of those maps where, after your 4th guard kill, an extra guard will arrive on the map. Thus, ideally, you should only kill 3 guards to secure yourself more breathing room. Just be careful when killing guards - you don't want to do it in sight of a camera or another guard, and have to bag and secure the corpse quickly. And don't break any glass in the process.

It's also important to get as many paintings as possible from the first day, as they'll let you safely scout out and monitor the apartment from the rooftop, and spot some of the items you need to steal. Good concealment (total rating of 10 or less, perhaps) will also help greatly.

As for luck - well, that comes in when dealing with vault placement, item placement, and guard patrol routes. If you're lucky, for example, all the stuff you need will be within easy reach, the guards will stick almost exclusively to the balcony, and the vault will be in the bedroom, within easy reach of the bag chute.

Beyond that, well... keep trying, keep learning.

[MIKEnJELLO]

best to have a full stealth team. two go for items and vault. two on roof to help move bags or throw down shortcut (if bought).

bedroom vault is best spawn if you are going for gold.

move coke into bedroom behind the seat. open bookcase move coke. one roof member uses computer to open and shut off vault lasers. move gold into vault room. stack gold behind seat where you moved coke. all 4 members carefully move gold to roof. (ecm and rush if caught moving gold.) then escape.

enjoy!

[Grapefruit]

Thanks guys.
One more question, after that one guard arrives at the scene, if I kill him as well, will another one appear again? That way could I kill everyone? :D

[Crow's Eye -[RoB]-]

You won't be able to kill the new guard as he'd be the fifth pager. I believe he leaves if he checks the map out successfully and finds nothing amiss.

[Rated A for Anarchy]

Nope no one will appear after he spawned but you won't be able to kill him because you would have already answered 4 pagers that is the max number of pager you can answer before the security guy on the other end getting suspecious.

And no you should not destroy any cameras as soon as a guard walk by he'll notice that broken piece of metal and call the cops.

I just can give you the advise to open all doors that lead to the roof. So the guards have more room to walk and can too.

[Grapefruit]

Thanks guys, really appreciate it.
I'm gonna play this stupid heist again, anyone wanna help me?

[casdarius]

if you need to kill a few guards you can kill up to 4. a new guard will come to check on things so the big thing here is he will go floor by floor and check everything that means you cant pop any security doors or break any cameras or any stray pellets cant hit any windows if you use the loco for a secondary weapon. the extra guard will leave the highrise and wont return but you just have to be patient and let him leave. you should have a mcuh easier time if you do it this way and build up to a complete pascifisit run.

[Crow's Eye -[RoB]-]

Does he check up on the roof where the bag shortcut is and the camera feed is?

[Calloused]

Originally posted by 187_50:

Does he check up on the roof where the bag shortcut is and the camera feed is?

He doesnt come up those stairs, no.

[ChrisKatze]

stop being a noob, its easy

[c0ugrhuntr]

This map was made for when you could still clear the area of all opposition, there is very little cover and the patrol routes are wacky (guards will park in a spot for over 3 minutes sometimes)

1. Get a detection rating of 3 and bring at least 2 basic ecm jammers and make sure you can bag 2 bodies
2. Buy the bag drop chute and health and body bags
3. Figure out where items spawn (there is guide on steam for this)
4. Practice taking wider corners and scouting areas before you commit to entering the zone, be aware of any cameras and patrolling guards, if the area is too hot, it might be best to go somewhere else first
5. Learn the routes to reach different areas of the map
6. Strategically remove 3 guards from play, ideally i go after patrollers on the roof or the bed room since it will be easier to stash the bodies (typically will do this after the computer is hacked since you might run into trouble before anyways). Always remember the amount you have killed, if you already killed 4 and get caught by a fifth guard, it is time to jammer rush, don't kill or dominate anything after 4 kills
6. Be patient, don't panic, don't break glass
7. Be lucky (pray you get the bedroom vault and not the basement vault)

[JaMMing]

if no one said it yet :

You can use trip mines with movement detection, they make a 'bip' where a guard passes across it and doesnt notice em.

My best place are in stairs, but ofc, I drop em when I know where the vault is to put em around.

[76561198093486818]

I'd love to help ya. Just add me for day 3.