alarm tripped pager operator wasnt convinced by the answer :(

[Baronewbietutsdone]

Hey!

I'm currently level 56 i bought the game last weekend so im a big newbie and im from europe.
My skills are: 5, 3, 0, 10, 14

So I was doing car shop on overkill difficulty solo and after killing one of the guards and responding to the pager i got this message:
"alarm tripped pager operator wasnt convinced by the answer"
and the alarm was fired.

So bascially may you guys tell me what to do how to avoid this situation.

Do i have to learn a special skill in any skill tree or will i just have to stop killing the guards or will i need to play with more people so we can kill more guards by each of us would just answer to 2-3 pagers.

Thanks in advance!

And if you are interested playing stealthy please add me to friends.
Thank you!

[Ћ Abomination Jones]

You can only answer 4 pagers total between the team.

[Max]

Don't kill more then 4 guards

[Banter]

On each map, you have a limit of 4 pagers global. That means that whoever kills a guard and awnsers the pager, adds to the count.

Simply said: Kill more than 4 guards and you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Vinyl Scratch]

You can answer up to 4 pagers
Any more, and the alarm trips

That's all there is to it.
No skills, no other gimicks, that's the game mechanic in it's entirety.

[Bindal]

How fitting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsfxl7mLF0

[Baronewbietutsdone]

Thank you guys for your fast responses.

[Steezy]

Everybody seems to have forgotten about pager juggling, so I will explain that quickly.
First thing is get hoxhud, instead of the circle, it'll give you a remaining time in seconds (or both, if you like).

Now when you kill the 5th guard, wait a while before answering his pager (but not too late!), then start answering it. When you're close to ~3 seconds, let some other person answer it (which means, keep answering until the second guy starts to answer, then release).
There has to be one person answering the pager at all times (which means that you CAN disconnect IF there's someone else answering the same pager, without the alarm going off).

[*.)]

Pager juggling is kind of an exploit. And you don't need hoxhud for it either.

It's not a strategy I would advice to any player.

[qweqweqwe]

Pager juggling is dead,or at least,has a very very small window to use now.

OVK revamped the best heist to use it on(Pre Train-revamp).Even then it was less for heist finishing & more for the 40-bag achivement.

Now that it has ♥♥♥♥-ton more guards,its not viable to do it there anymore.
Other heists meanwhile not only have alot more guards,but also have the inspectors ready to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you for being helplessly stuck there.


@Topic. Answered already,but yes you can only answer 4 pagers.Treat those 4 pagers as mistakes you can fix/ or for necessary elimination(like the back guards in Golden Grin Casino).

Your going to have to dodge guards without killing/alerting them if you take on the more higher-level stealth heists. If its too hard,or you just lack the patience(like me),i can understand.Thats why i(and alot of other heists)prefer to do it in Loud!

[Wayz]

Originally posted by ♝M.P.G♝ foxythepiratefoxITA:

-what the hell is happening over there?
-huuh.. nothing
-*thinking* totaly not of suspicious at all C:>

-pickup the pager
-you have reached dannaton enterpraises. we cant take your call at the moment.
-*thinking*this is a bit suspicious. but who cares? C:I

-hey what is going on over there?
- i hate pagers. anyway here is allright.
-*thinkning* mhhh whatever.. nothing of suspicious at all.. but this starts smell fishy 3:>

-pick up the pager and dont make me send someone there.
-hi,hello and goodbye :3
-*thinking* >:C are they pissing me off?!

-hey. pickup the pager c:
-hey. huh. microwawe damaged radio.. BARNEY UR POPCORN ARE SCARING CONTROLL!
-*thinking* okay this is it >:c steve will pay for this >:C

*calls the army*

lol.. the pd2 cops call center guy;P
what happens when you ♥♥♥♥ up the pagers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj9hLUuk4NY

[Pawnstar]

Hint: Don't tell the operator that your boner hit the button, he won't believe it.

[Baronewbietutsdone]

:) fun stuff. Thank you again for taking the time to respond to this thread. :)

[The Stranger]

Originally posted by TAW|Steez:

Everybody seems to have forgotten about pager juggling, so I will explain that quickly.
First thing is get hoxhud, instead of the circle, it'll give you a remaining time in seconds (or both, if you like).

Now when you kill the 5th guard, wait a while before answering his pager (but not too late!), then start answering it. When you're close to ~3 seconds, let some other person answer it (which means, keep answering until the second guy starts to answer, then release).
There has to be one person answering the pager at all times (which means that you CAN disconnect IF there's someone else answering the same pager, without the alarm going off).

Wait, how come I've never heard of this as a since BETA player.
It's been a while, jeez.

How exactly does it work?

[Talisman]

Originally posted by TAW|Steez:

Everybody seems to have forgotten about pager juggling, so I will explain that quickly.
First thing is get hoxhud, instead of the circle, it'll give you a remaining time in seconds (or both, if you like).

Now when you kill the 5th guard, wait a while before answering his pager (but not too late!), then start answering it. When you're close to ~3 seconds, let some other person answer it (which means, keep answering until the second guy starts to answer, then release).
There has to be one person answering the pager at all times (which means that you CAN disconnect IF there's someone else answering the same pager, without the alarm going off).

I understand why you recommend to get a HUD mod for this (makes it easier to remember the time left on the pager) but, with the amount of times it's broken the game in the past month or so, I'd say get something like GageHud or PocoHud instead of HoxHud. That's just my opinion, though. Nothing against HoxHud itself.

[hirnlappen]

Originally posted by SoonDead:

Originally posted by TAW|Steez:

Everybody seems to have forgotten about pager juggling, so I will explain that quickly.
First thing is get hoxhud, instead of the circle, it'll give you a remaining time in seconds (or both, if you like).

Now when you kill the 5th guard, wait a while before answering his pager (but not too late!), then start answering it. When you're close to ~3 seconds, let some other person answer it (which means, keep answering until the second guy starts to answer, then release).
There has to be one person answering the pager at all times (which means that you CAN disconnect IF there's someone else answering the same pager, without the alarm going off).

Wait, how come I've never heard of this as a since BETA player.
It's been a while, jeez.

How exactly does it work?

Well, I can hardly add anything to the description how it works, only why it works: the actual trigger for an alarm is
1) The timer to answer a pager has run out and no one is answering or
2) A fifth pager has been completely answered.
Juggling avoids 1 by constantly have a player answer the pager and 2 by never finishing answering it. It's just usually not really worth doing it because it's tedious, requires two players' complete attention for the rest of the heist and can easily go wrong if one of the players misses his mark or a living guard walks sees the body that you can't remove because you haven't answered his pager.