So what's the story behind the Safe controversy?

[shodgson118]

I know they were banned due to courts ruling it as gambling, but that is a crazy double standard. Look at EA the biggest Pay-To-Win with Fifa's Card packs in every annual release of the franchise. I actually know someone who was so addicted to the card thing he almost lost his house. So why were Overkill forced to remove this mechanice & othe rcompanies are allowed to continue to rip off consumers?

[Wandering Flare]

My guess is other companies, due to their budget and influence, can tiptoe around those or outright fight lawsuits filed against them while OVERKILL decided to play it safe.

[Tiresias - The Blind Lucario]

The problem is EA is big enough to get away with that kind of ♥♥♥♥.
OVERKILL and Starbreeze aren't. So they played it safe.

[Sunday Driver]

EA have a long history of doing things they should have been sued into the dirt for but get away with it. They've even had products that bricked people's consoles and still had no consequences and people just forget about it. I can only imagine that Ultima 7 wasn't far off the mark and they really do have powerful black magic on their side. There aren't many companies large enough and and shielded by dark magics enough to avoid all the consequences...

[Stinker]

EA isn't located in Europe so those laws do not apply to their company.

[shodgson118]

Originally posted by Tiresias - The Blind Lucario:

The problem is EA is big enough to get away with that kind of ♥♥♥♥.
OVERKILL and Starbreeze aren't. So they played it safe.

Its sickening. Wouldn't be so bad if most of the games they released weren't trash, with emphasis on how to exploit consumers rather than making a good game, Overkill made a fantastic game that is still being played by many 7 years on. EA couldn't dream of having a game with such longevity

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by shodgson118:

Originally posted by Tiresias - The Blind Lucario:

The problem is EA is big enough to get away with that kind of ♥♥♥♥.
OVERKILL and Starbreeze aren't. So they played it safe.

Its sickening. Wouldn't be so bad if most of the games they released weren't trash, with emphasis on how to exploit consumers rather than making a good game, Overkill made a fantastic game that is still being played by many 7 years on. EA couldn't dream of having a game with such longevity

It's especially sad as early on Electronic Arts weren't the rampaging death star they became later as they started buying up studios and IPs and killing them off and then all the worse stuff that came. I find most their stuff to be generic or by the numbers garbage too but they do have the weight and momentum of the size and money behind them.

Origin (and many others) - never forget. :(

[B〄F Altonator]

Originally posted by Delinquentis:

EA isn't located in Europe so those laws do not apply to their company.

This. It's only a european law. This is your answer right here.

[Lar Dass]

The macrotransactions debate is true especially if said items give you better stats which payday 2 doesn't have

[Carnatux]

depends where the company is based that law is only europe iirc so anything in the states would be fine still

[Squirrely Wrath]

summer event, people grindet their asses off to get some masks and other goodies, and the final "reward" where the lootboxes with the payed keys. besides ovk milking the community for years they managed to even piss the most loyal fans off.

you can imagine how this felt when you grindet stuff for weeks just to get rewardet with this, not to mention what this foretold to payday 3 if this ever comes out

and it took them years to find out that nobody is dumb enough to buy those since the skins are medicore at best

[JJ, Professional Fool]

Originally posted by Squirrely Wrath:

summer event, people grindet their asses off to get some masks and other goodies, and the final "reward" where the lootboxes with the payed keys. besides ovk milking the community for years they managed to even piss the most loyal fans off.

you can imagine how this felt when you grindet stuff for weeks just to get rewardet with this, not to mention what this foretold to payday 3 if this ever comes out

and it took them years to find out that nobody is dumb enough to buy those since the skins are medicore at best

I buys them skins. Dang.

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by Martin Vol:

My guess is other companies, due to their budget and influence, can tiptoe around those or outright fight lawsuits filed against them while OVERKILL decided to play it safe.

haha! SAFE! I get it

[shodgson118]

Originally posted by B〄F Altonator:

Originally posted by Delinquentis:

EA isn't located in Europe so those laws do not apply to their company.

This. It's only a european law. This is your answer right here.

Well thanks. That sucks still

[Sunday Driver]

The online gambling thing in video games has gone completely off the rails as time has gone on. There's way less regulation for garbage games like raid shadow legends than there is for a casino, so that's why the gambling corporations moved into games. Especially mobile gaming, where they can legally get away with stuff that you could never do in a brick and mortar casino where there's all manner of rules in place for more fairness and openness. I find the whole thing deeply unpleasant to see video games that used to be about creative people making things, teams of artists and mathematical wizards coming together, having fun and so on being turned into something that is crafted with teams of psychology experts to addict people and bleed them dry in the most efficient manner possible, knowing it is only going to get worse over time.

Payday 2 (and some others, no doubt) ditching the safes was a bright spot in an otherwise long dark tunnel.

[Private Racco]

Originally posted by shodgson118:

I know they were banned due to courts ruling it as gambling, but that is a crazy double standard. Look at EA the biggest Pay-To-Win with Fifa's Card packs in every annual release of the franchise. I actually know someone who was so addicted to the card thing he almost lost his house. So why were Overkill forced to remove this mechanice & othe rcompanies are allowed to continue to rip off consumers?

Back in 2013-2014, Almir promised that there would be no microtransactions in PAYDAY 2, like EVER, as in they would never stoop this low. In 2015, during crimefest, they added microtransactions in the game (safes and drills you had to buy, or take a 0,0001 % chance gamble to obtain in card drops). It goes without saying that alot of people were kinda pissed. Also, stat boosts. Pretty unfair that some people could pay for a chance to have higher stats on their weapons right ? Personally, I never cared about this whole mess, playing the game for what it is and trying to ignore radicalists.