10x more players than payday 3 right now

[Dr.Metalman Attorney At Law]

Damn they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up lmao

[Svenson]

What's more concerning is 2 used to have way more players. Not sure what happened but the servers do seem worse. Random crashes and just slower to load in general. Quick play is broken for me and causes an endless loop that I have to force quit the game.

I think 3 is a lot better now than when it came out, but still lacking content in comparison even if you buy all the DLC so far. At this rate it will be several years before 3 has comparable content. I think it will have to reach a critical mass of DLC and have a huge DLC sale to get the numbers we used to have back.

I would like to see the multi-day missions come back. Especially the random transport missions. I think fleshing out that system for more variety would really freshen up the game.

Biggest strengths of 3 are better gunplay and stealth is much more viable without needing a specific stealth build. Playing 2 is generally all or nothing, you plan to do stealth or you go loud. Playing 3 is much better, my teams tend to start stealth and then go loud eventually without the need of restarting constantly or people arguing over stealth or loud.

I do wish the default was to keep people in a party after the first game, as almost no one ever opts in and I feel like it was easier to meet friends in 2.

Carrying two bags is cool, but nearly everyone has that perk so bag moving goes too fast now. I wish the missions gave you the opportunity to move way more bags. I'd also like to see more of moving really heavy bags like the nukes or the weapons bags in 2. Also missions with vehicles, that was fun.

[JaNieWie]

Do you know that some are most likely bots, due to unnatural behavior in player counts?

[EARTHY SPEEDWAYS]

Originally posted by Svenson:

What's more concerning is 2 used to have way more players. Not sure what happened but the servers do seem worse. Random crashes and just slower to load in general.

I think it's safe to assume PAYDAY 2 will continue to lose players indefinitely. It no longer gets new gameplay elements, so people will slowly lose interest over time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "servers" though. If you mean matchmaking in general, yes, it's gotten worse. Since PAYDAY 2 launched on Epic Games, every PC player now depends on Epic Online Services, instead of the Steam Matchmaking, formerly. EOS is visibly worse than Steam MM. Its performance varies through the day and sometimes it breaks entirely for no reason.

If you mean game servers, PD2 is peer-to-peer, players host their game, so maybe something's up with your PC and/or internet connection?

The quality of updates has gotten worse and worse over time, too, as more and more of the original developers left. Fixes? More like breaks. Improvements? My ass.

Originally posted by JaNieWie:

Do you know that some are most likely bots, due to unnatural behavior in player counts?

Ok but that doesn't make PD3 less laughable. Suppose there's 7500 bots, that's still 7500 human players. Which is way above 3's 900 players on a friday evening.

[TheChallenger]

a lot of payday 2 players a bots if u look at steamdb recently there was a huge player count drop basicly instantly and now there are huge spikes of players joining in that aint normal. i would say that there is at least 5-8k players playing payday2 at best

[rjames2489]

cool

[DukeyNukey]

how the hell are there 10k players in pd2 but no lobbies appaearing?

[Chris]

I'm waiting for next month's large patch. I stopped paying payday 3 not because it's not fun but rather because finding matches is such a pain compared to the 2nd game.

[JaNieWie]

Originally posted by EARTHY SPEEDWAYS:

Originally posted by Svenson:

What's more concerning is 2 used to have way more players. Not sure what happened but the servers do seem worse. Random crashes and just slower to load in general.

I think it's safe to assume PAYDAY 2 will continue to lose players indefinitely. It no longer gets new gameplay elements, so people will slowly lose interest over time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "servers" though. If you mean matchmaking in general, yes, it's gotten worse. Since PAYDAY 2 launched on Epic Games, every PC player now depends on Epic Online Services, instead of the Steam Matchmaking, formerly. EOS is visibly worse than Steam MM. Its performance varies through the day and sometimes it breaks entirely for no reason.

If you mean game servers, PD2 is peer-to-peer, players host their game, so maybe something's up with your PC and/or internet connection?

The quality of updates has gotten worse and worse over time, too, as more and more of the original developers left. Fixes? More like breaks. Improvements? My ass.

Originally posted by JaNieWie:

Do you know that some are most likely bots, due to unnatural behavior in player counts?

Sorry for replying late, but do you realize people also play Payday 3 from Epic Games launcher or are playing on Consoles? This is why we shouldn't use SteamDB to determine player numbers altogether.

Why does Steam make it look like this?

[ТУННЕЛЬНЫЙ СИНДРОМ ENJOYER]

10x More noobs than payday 3 right now

[Lavaissoup7]

Originally posted by ඞ amogus ඞ:

how the hell are there 10k players in pd2 but no lobbies appaearing?

Might be an issue on your end, I still get lobbies in the game normally

[Lavaissoup7]

Originally posted by TheChallenger:

a lot of payday 2 players a bots if u look at steamdb recently there was a huge player count drop basicly instantly and now there are huge spikes of players joining in that aint normal. i would say that there is at least 5-8k players playing payday2 at best

Yeah idk why people keep denying that