Kobus 90 vs. Micro Uzi

[PhénixCraie7]

So, which one is better ? Tell me which and why in the comments !

[ReV0LT]

引用自 aDD!cTeD：

引用自 UnknownMercenary：

Has anyone tried the Spec Ops since the rebalance? It's also actually pretty good. Way better than it used to be.

Yep, this is the one I prefer with my silent killer build.

This. It's a beast with the Silent Killer. I run Ghostforcer just for fun, and I just can't leave Spec Ops out of my secondary slot. Good damage enough to one-shot cops, accurate enough for long distance shots, high ROF capable of shredding dozer faceplate, the Mark-10/Jacket SMG is better than the Spec Ops in terms of damage and ROF only....

[Whispers Murmurs Voices Purpose]

Between the choice of P90 and the Micro Uzi, definitely the Micro Uzi.
damage per second is better. reload is better. recoil is near zero. crazy good ammo pick-up (best in the smg category).

The P90...
either you have mediocre accuracy and really bad recoil, or you have good recoil and poor accuracy for a weapon that has one of the lowest ammo pick-up rates.
P90 has more damage than the Micro Uzi, but this is negligible for Death Wish.

So, yeah, Micro Uzi is the obvious choice between it and the P90.
What I would suggest you, though, would be using the Krinkov. It's basically an Assault Rifle in the same calibre as The Eagle Rifle/Falcon Rifle. You can get the Krinkov up to 100 stability and 80+ accuracy and having very good damage.

TL;DR: Stick to Micro Uzi, and stay away from the P90 if you want efficiency.

[LighTs_aRe_danCinG_iN_thE_skY]

引用自 ReV0LT：

引用自 aDD!cTeD：

Yep, this is the one I prefer with my silent killer build.

This. It's a beast with the Silent Killer. I run Ghostforcer just for fun, and I just can't leave Spec Ops out of my secondary slot. Good damage enough to one-shot cops, accurate enough for long distance shots, high ROF capable of shredding dozer faceplate, the Mark-10/Jacket SMG is better than the Spec Ops in terms of damage and ROF only....

Never tried the jacket piece yet (bought HM on Winter sale and I'm travelling right now).
I don't watch to much stats anymore and I prefer to trust the "feeling" I have with a gun and hip fire is just great with the Spec Ops (at least with silent killer, don't really know without it).

[Fran$enlipper]

引用自 not quite enjoying this steak：

SMGs right now are pretty much useless

Can not confirm that anyway. Depends on playstyle and ofc experience.

[OVERKILL_Danne]

Personally I roll with the Micro Uzi and a Sniper rifle because I feel like a ninja.

In the end, unless you like min-maxing, I'd go with the one you find feels best since both are potent. Basically it's accuracy and mag size vs ammo count and ROF.

[Archwraith]

引用自 Heisters.net Fransenlipper：

引用自 not quite enjoying this steak：

SMGs right now are pretty much useless

Can not confirm that anyway. Depends on playstyle and ofc experience.

Kross and Krinkov still topped most Assault Rifle. These pair are quite insane on my playstyle since kross vomit mag on dozer real fast and the krinkov is really strong with 80 damage.

[Fran$enlipper]

I run a Heavy Crossbow / Micro Uzi Crit Hit Build with overall 3 concealment. I can use the micro like a main weapon.

[Archwraith]

引用自 Heisters.net Fransenlipper：

I run a Heavy Crossbow / Micro Uzi Crit Hit Build with overall 3 concealment. I can use the micro like a main weapon.

How do you utilize the heavy crossbow well? I'm still struggling to learn it.

[Fran$enlipper]

引用自 Archwraith：

How do you utilize the heavy crossbow well? I'm still struggling to learn it.

Thats my build:
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSLHjEFGbcDa:eIEfDa:tda:ghjEgCa:fqroKhEFGbCda:ibcdea:pN8::w91-1:s90-22-17-14-8-21:a1

Micro Uzi using conceal Boost too. I played two times Hoxton Breakout DW with that Build, it's uncommon and you have to change your playstyle a bit. Use Micro UZI as main, and the Crossbow only to stun/kill Dozers & Shields. Try to use splash damage every time.

[NoFlu]

引用自 aDD!cTeD：

引用自 ReV0LT：

This. It's a beast with the Silent Killer. I run Ghostforcer just for fun, and I just can't leave Spec Ops out of my secondary slot. Good damage enough to one-shot cops, accurate enough for long distance shots, high ROF capable of shredding dozer faceplate, the Mark-10/Jacket SMG is better than the Spec Ops in terms of damage and ROF only....

Never tried the jacket piece yet (bought HM on Winter sale and I'm travelling right now).
I don't watch to much stats anymore and I prefer to trust the "feeling" I have with a gun and hip fire is just great with the Spec Ops (at least with silent killer, don't really know without it).

It's pretty nice. You can mod it to act like a shotgun.... I don't know about this after the rebalance but before you could go for 0 acc....

[BBK]

Kobus is more viable for long range fights thanks to its ability to get a scope and 50+ accuracy. Micro-uzi is a beast for CQC maps, especially with 40 damage and smg specialist aced.

Both are viable and not that much different apart from stats, a real question would be to choose between the CMP or Krinkov.

[NoFlu]

引用自 Big Boss Kai：

Kobus is more viable for long range fights thanks to its ability to get a scope and 50+ accuracy. Micro-uzi is a beast for CQC maps, especially with 40 damage and smg specialist aced.

Both are viable and not that much different apart from stats, a real question would be to choose between the CMP or Krinkov.

Well TBH you can hit long range shoots with the Micro due to the ROF and some luck in spray&pray....

[Fran$enlipper]

So changed the boost to accuracy, now the micro UZI has the folling values:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=598400077

Snoozle of Fun gives 43 dmg (with big lost of accuracy) instead of 42 now, so i let it like it is.

[ReV0LT]

引用自 NoFlu：

引用自 aDD!cTeD：

Never tried the jacket piece yet (bought HM on Winter sale and I'm travelling right now).
I don't watch to much stats anymore and I prefer to trust the "feeling" I have with a gun and hip fire is just great with the Spec Ops (at least with silent killer, don't really know without it).

It's pretty nice. You can mod it to act like a shotgun.... I don't know about this after the rebalance but before you could go for 0 acc....

Nah, it sinks at about 30-40 accuracy the lowest

With Silent Killer and some good mods Jacket's piece to hit harder than the Spec Ops, but from what I notice, the Spec Ops have little hipfire spread compared to the Jacket's Piece.

[NoFlu]

引用自 ReV0LT：

引用自 NoFlu：

It's pretty nice. You can mod it to act like a shotgun.... I don't know about this after the rebalance but before you could go for 0 acc....

Nah, it sinks at about 30-40 accuracy the lowest

With Silent Killer and some good mods Jacket's piece to hit harder than the Spec Ops, but from what I notice, the Spec Ops have little hipfire spread compared to the Jacket's Piece.

Sad. I liked the Shot-10....